OverThere Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 That was dross. After our starting 11 we are pretty bad, especially up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Meanwhile we're 72 hours away from qualifying for our first domestic semi for 23 years. We'd have probably won tonight if that weren't the case. Cardiff 2005 m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Bruce and Pardew both got us to League Cup quarter finals. Rafa did it in the Championship ffs. It's hardly a massive achievement especially when combined with abysmal FA Cup exits. Big pressure on Tuesday to save our season in terms of cup performances IMO considering where our ambitions are supposed to be now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, ponsaelius said: Bruce and Pardew both got us to League Cup quarter finals. Rafa did it in the Championship ffs. It's hardly a massive achievement especially when combined with abysmal FA Cup exits. Big pressure on Tuesday to save our season in terms of cup performances IMO considering where our ambitions are supposed to be now. We’re third in the league you hysterical mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 It really goes to show how quickly certain fans will turn on him if things aren't consistently rosy in the garden. We're on the up, but there's going to be bumps and set backs along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Bruce and Pardew both got us to League Cup quarter finals. Rafa did it in the Championship ffs. It's hardly a massive achievement especially when combined with abysmal FA Cup exits. Big pressure on Tuesday to save our season in terms of cup performances IMO considering where our ambitions are supposed to be now. Fucking hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Something to learn today Eddie. You'd need to train the lads on how to comeback while trailing as we have not really been in that position this season apart fron Tranmere away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, christ said: We’re third in the league you hysterical mess. What has that got to do with anything. I am saying that this is a blemish not that he's doing a bad job. Exiting the FA Cup in the 3rd round to lower league teams two years in a row is underperformance considering the club's ambitions. I'd imagine even Howe, considering his high expectations, would think the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 It will obviously come across as entitled given our incredible performance in the league, but I’m absolutely foaming with our displays in the FA Cup under Howe. It’s been two huge embarrassments against League One opposition. I’ve mentioned in another post that our FA Cup struggles obviously predate his time here, but our mentality in my eyes is still just shit in these games. He was let down largely by poor finishing, but I have to be honest that going out two years in a row to this level of opposition is a real sore-point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Prophet said: It really goes to show how quickly certain fans will turn on him if things aren't consistently rosy in the garden. We're on the up, but there's going to be bumps and set backs along the way. Complete madness isn't it, one defeat and people lose their minds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I would have liked to have seen Isak on with our good players rather than start with the dross was the only thing I think he should have done differently. He's not doing anything different than managers of top teams would do. No criticism from me for squad rotation. It's just unfortunately his second string are dogs meat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The only hysteria I see on here is people unable to accept legitimate and balanced critique without throwing their toys out of the pram. I have had a lifetime of watching us be absolutely shit in the FA Cup. It was a hope that this would change very quickly. The fact it hasn't happened is one of the few blemishes on his record so far. It's just a blemish in an otherwise exceptional record - bit it still is one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Still love Eddie. He's working wonders with most of the squad. We know the ones who are a lost cause, and I'm sure the board know as well. Hopefully this will act as a catalyst for Tuesday, and we'll batter Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, pubteam said: Complete madness isn't it, one defeat and people lose their minds. I don’t think much of our fans generally but this place is chock full of the most conceited, entitled fuckers that we possess. And it’s only got worse since the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandrotastico Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Won't knock Eddie for this. We had chances. There was enough on that pitch to beat them. Some, many are just not good enough. Lascelles just projects uncertainty in the back four, as does Dubravka. Both are decent footballers but not leaders. That's the difference with these top players like Tripps and Bruno, they want the ball, they are leaders. Even Joe and BDB, they never hide. You add average players to that in Lewis, Wood, Murphy & Ritchie, along with Longstaff. One of these players can be carried by the above, 3-4 of these starting and you turn back to the old NUFC, weak as piss mentally. Squad needs strengthening asap. Howe needs some reserves. Edited January 7, 2023 by Oregon_Geordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 If the players did their job we'd have at least got a draw. Hopefully he's lost faith in a couple and is looking to replace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: The only hysteria I see on here is people unable to accept legitimate and balanced critique without throwing their toys out of the pram. I have had a lifetime of watching us be absolutely shit in the FA Cup. It was a hope that this would change very quickly. The fact it hasn't happened is one of the few blemishes on his record so far. It's just a blemish in an otherwise exceptional record - bit it still is one. That's kind of the point isn't it? Tonight saw an average performance and some poor finishing produce a crap result. Some of the lads who produced that performance aren't particularly good, something we already knew. It depends how much of an issue you have with the league and the latter stages of the League Cup being prioritised ahead of the first round of the FA Cup. Edited January 7, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, christ said: I don’t think much of our fans generally but this place is chock full of the most conceited, entitled fuckers that we possess. And it’s only got worse since the takeover. Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership. Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 If I'm Eddie Howe on the bus back up the A1 then I'm not even looking at them, let alone speaking to some of them tonight. They wanted a chance, they got a chance and they completely blew it with that pigshit tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership. Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. Can't just say that. Gotta name names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, ponsaelius said: Similarly I would say there are posters on here who contribute so little they might as well just log off, such is their inability to engage with nuance or debate without having a childish meltdown and slagging off other supporters. In fact since the ownership change this has got worse - such is the positivity towards the new ownership. Nobody has anything other than praise for the unbelievable job that Howe has done. But two 3rd round exits to lower league opposition is, in isolation, a bit of a disappointment. That is all and I imagine Howe is himself very frustrated by it. I don't think you should be isolating them though. One was at the start of his reign before the transfers came in when we were bottom of the league, this season's has come when we're clearly prioritising a cup that we're 2 rounds away from a final and are going for a top 6 position. Both games we created more than enough clearcut chances to win as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 (edited) Of course he'll be gutted. At the end of the day, this result isn't on him. It's the absolute shower he was left with who were largely inept to squeeze a result out of an FA Cup tie to frankly shite opposition. All this is is a stark reminder of the lack of depth and quality we have. The players that were out there tonight had a chance to make a claim for a starting place. They fucked it up royally. Edited January 7, 2023 by toon25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 If we're going into 'in isolation' territory then Steve Bruce is a better FA Cup manager than him. Think we all know that's bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, toon25 said: Of course he'll be gutted. At the end of the day, this result isn't on him. It's the absolute shower he was left with who were largely inept to squeeze a result out of an FA Cup tie to frankly shite opposition. All this is is a stark reminder of the lack of depth and quality we have. The players that were out there tonight had a chance to make a claim for a starting place. They fucked it up royally. To be fair, none of our fringe players, if in their right minds, think they have a claim for a starting place. Probably why Lascelles hasn’t moaned yet. He must look at Schar and Botman and think ‘fair play, I’m shit’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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