Shearergol Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Think Rafa's track record at Liverpool for signings is just as good/bad as any other manager of that era really. Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho all brought in their fair share of rubbish outweighed by obvious quality. Rafa and transfers here was just so frustrating. Limited budget, but relatively decent money spent into the likes of Murphy, Muto, Ki that didn't further our cause at all. Who's actually in charge of any recruitment department at the club now anyway? Unrelated point, but always get the impression that we have minimal connections to agents wise. Any talent of note is always heading to other clubs, especially from Europe. Ahh yes, the schools are closed aren't they. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Rafa is good at signing players but probably needs a decent scouting network, a reasonable budget and maybe some degree of support/control. I always think his best transfer business was done at Napoli. Mertens €9.5 Million Callejon €9.5 Million Raúl Albiol €12 million Higuain €37 million Reina free Duvan Zapata €7.5 million Jorginho €5.5 million Ghoulam €5.5 million And in second season Koulibaly for €7.5 million. While there has obviously been inflation since that was an incredible haul of players in 12 months bought for basically what they received for Cavani. Most either went on to become club legends or be sold for big transfer fees. At the very worst they were well worth their money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Think Rafa's track record at Liverpool for signings is just as good/bad as any other manager of that era really. Wenger, Ferguson, Mourinho all brought in their fair share of rubbish outweighed by obvious quality. Rafa and transfers here was just so frustrating. Limited budget, but relatively decent money spent into the likes of Murphy, Muto, Ki that didn't further our cause at all. Who's actually in charge of any recruitment department at the club now anyway? Unrelated point, but always get the impression that we have minimal connections to agents wise. Any talent of note is always heading to other clubs, especially from Europe. Ahh yes, the schools are closed aren't they. Wasn't saying Rafa was to blame for these signings, far from it - just that it's frustrating that what money we did have wasn't fully utilised. Ki not so much, albeit probably big contract, but £10M on Muto, £10M+ on Murphy, didn't turn out great when we had nothing to spend at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On the other hand he bought the best group of centre backs we've had in years for a pittance. Not every transfer is going to come off. I'm not sure which other strikers we could have signed for as cheap as Muto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Mikel Merino was a solid signing that we probably wouldn't have made without the influence of Rafa. Every chance he becomes a mainstay in the Spanish national team and gets a move to one of the historically top clubs. Every club gets signings wrong, I think for the most part we do quite well in the transfer window when we actually decide to take part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Mikel Merino was a solid signing that we probably wouldn't have made without the influence of Rafa. Every chance he becomes a mainstay in the Spanish national team and gets a move to one of the historically top clubs. Every club gets signings wrong. Rafa was mates with his Dad, possibly ex-teammates, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Didn't know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 So we’re after Brandon Williams? I’d rather we signed Jetro or not bother at all than develop other clubs players for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shearergol Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Please god, sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ben Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Disgusting, this is just history repeating itself, big Andy gets on a hot streak and then we sell him to a more ambitious club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Disgusting, this is just history repeating itself, big Andy gets on a hot streak and then we sell him to a more ambitious club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Aye let’s sell all our strikers to relegation rivals. That can only end well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Selling our shit players isnt a problem. It's the, not buying suitable replacements, which causes the harm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Selling our shit players isnt a problem. It's the, not buying suitable replacements, which causes the harm. Par for the course with this club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 If I had faith we’d sign a striker then getting shot of Gayle & Carroll would be good. Should be going for Giroud, think he could partner Wilson too if we’re playing two strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 If I had faith we’d sign a striker then getting shot of Gayle & Carroll would be good. Should be going for Giroud, think he could partner Wilson too if we’re playing two strikers. his wage bill _is_ our transfer budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Selling our s*** players isnt a problem. It's the, not buying suitable replacements, which causes the harm. Par for the course with this club Selling our shit players is a problem for this club. We've struggled for ages permanently offloading the deadwood. Saivet, Aarons, Lazaar haven't had futures at the club for years now, but haven't shifted them, was the same with Colback. Could never move Gayle on two/three years ago when he was seemingly on his way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Gayle's closer to a starter than someone to sell IMO. Drop Joelinton and play him instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Vilca might be going on loan to Carlisle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Still makes me chuckle we have Gayle and Carroll on the books, what a fucking dire state of affairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 If I had faith we’d sign a striker then getting shot of Gayle & Carroll would be good. Should be going for Giroud, think he could partner Wilson too if we’re playing two strikers. More likely we'd look at dragging Andreas Andersson out of retirement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 If I had faith we’d sign a striker then getting shot of Gayle & Carroll would be good. Should be going for Giroud, think he could partner Wilson too if we’re playing two strikers. ??????????????????????????????????????? Giroud- Olivier giroud? The one that starts for France and Chelsea- Coming to Mike Ashley’s Newcastle who struggle to even keep possession for 4 minutes in the bottom half- notoriously tight as fuck and not paying wages- Give us a break man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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