huss9 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 time we had some dirty bastards at the back. this back four are sneaky and can be dirty as fuck when they need to be. in recent times i think only colo was a cunt (in the nicest possible way). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Is there a better CB in the league than this guy. I think he's absolutely solid. Cant think of a better CB, only the ones that stand out because they're already in an elite side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 hours ago, FloydianMag said: He’s better than Woodgate Possibly, though I’m going to say not just yet. Looks inevitable he will be though. If this lad is with us for a while it’s hard not to imagine that he’ll be in everyone’s all time XI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 6 hours ago, GWN said: Dont underestimate what he’s doing for Schar as well mind . Vice versa as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 7 hours ago, FloydianMag said: He’s better than Woodgate Nah - Woodgate from very under rated because of his injury record but the bloke was an artist. Botman may end up being better in a few years time but........not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I think schar is playing even better football because of Botman too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 22 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Nah - Woodgate from very under rated because of his injury record but the bloke was an artist. Botman may end up being better in a few years time but........not yet. I wasn’t around when Woodgate was at his best for us, but was he as consistent as Botman has been? And did he only turn into a crock after leaving us? In any case, with any luck we’ll be able to enjoy Botman marshalling our defence for many years yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Literally nothing between the 2 imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: I wasn’t around when Woodgate was at his best for us, but was he as consistent as Botman has been? And did he only turn into a crock after leaving us? In any case, with any luck we’ll be able to enjoy Botman marshalling our defence for many years yet. He was a crock before, during and after us. Probably because of his lifestyle and he was regularly in trouble after nights out iirc. But when he was fit, he was unreal and had it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I can't believe how quickly he adapted to the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 It is, and always will be, difficult to compare Woodgate and Botman because Botman has the advantage of playing in a far better structured defending unit alongside better defenders. It's not the fault of either of them, and you could argue that Woodgate was made to look more herculean due to how dire the alternates around him were. But all the same, he was utterly brilliant and raised the whole team WHEN he was playing. Botman hasn't had that challenge, yet (thankfully). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Woodgate also played alongside Ronaldo (the good one), Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Sergio Ramos, Raul, Casillas, Beckham etc etc Botman isnt at that level yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Woodgate also played alongside Ronaldo (the good one), Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Sergio Ramos, Raul, Casillas, Beckham etc etc Botman isnt at that level yet. Was Woodgate at that level at Real ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Woodgates only problem was how injury prone he was. If it wasn't for that he'd have been the best English centre back there'd been in years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, madras said: Was Woodgate at that level at Real ? No, but if he could have stayed consistently fit he would have been, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Lazarus said: He was a crock before, during and after us. Probably because of his lifestyle and he was regularly in trouble after nights out iirc. But when he was fit, he was unreal and had it all. I’ve never seen someone make a challenge look as comfortable as Woodgate did. The fact he made Bramble look good (ish) is a testament to his skill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Lazarus said: No, but if he could have stayed consistently fit he would have been, imo. Stayed fit ? He never had been. Wasn't the stat that he never played more than 6 consecutive games (you know what I mean) until he was basically finished ? Still the best CH I've seen for us.......there is a new nominee who could make me alter the view soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Woodgate was unbelievable, if he'd stayed fit there would very much have been the argument for him to be playing alongside Rio Ferdinand for England instead of Campbell and then Terry, he was comfortably at that level. Botman's not there yet but it doesn't really matter when he's probably already done more in a Newcastle shirt due to Woodgate's persistent injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Botman over Woodgate any day for me, simply because one is always available and one is always unavailable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Botman will be a top 5 CB in the world very soon and it’ll be in a black and white Newcastle shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) SVEN BOTMAN IS THE TERMINATOR. Edited December 28, 2022 by prefabtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Looking forward to this guy against Mitro in a few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) When we bought Woodgate we were linked heavily with John Terry, Chelsea were perhaps about to do the first stage of a Leeds and begin sellling players. Mourinho was set to come in and work under Sir Bobby then take over. Fitness notwithstanding probably the best pre-planning this club ever made. Such a fine line. Instead Abramovic rocks up, we get Bowyer on a free and nothing else and the rest is history. Edited December 28, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 He’s absurdly good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Unflappable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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