nufc123 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) We dont need sidesteps signings like Tarkowski. We need players who are big upgrades (Diaby, Botman). On the striker front im not so sure we have to find a better player than Wilson. Not easy to find any better. We just need to find one who doesnt plump in quality when Wilson is out. Edited June 1, 2022 by nufc123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Manxst said: Is he? He’s been shite this season. I'm talking in comparison to captain calamity. I think his form has been up and down this season but Burnley fans still seem to rate him and there's no question that he's more comfortable on the ball than Lascelles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just now, Jackie Broon said: I'm talking in comparison to captain calamity. I think his form has been up and down this season but Burnley fans still seem to rate him and there's no question that he's more comfortable on the ball than Lascelles. A legless dead corpse is more comfortable on the ball than Lascelles, it’s not a very high bar! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 11 minutes ago, Manxst said: Is he? He’s been shite this season. Burnley fans disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: Burnley fans disagree. Fair enough. Hasn’t looked great to me when I’ve seen him. Certainly not a massive upgrade, and certainly not on the finances. We could do infinitely better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 I think the only real difference between Lascelles and Tarkowski is that one has played in a chaotic sit back and hoof it team and the other in an organised one. I'm naturally suspicious of defenders that play in a system like Burnley's, what evidence do we have that he would fit into Howe's way of playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Here I go again defending Tarkowski . He’s significantly better than any of our defenders (besides perhaps Schar, but I’d argue he’s better and definitely more PL-proven than him too). Would be a great pick-up for free, providing his wages are reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 From The Athletic: “Carlos was no longer deemed attainable, and although one last attempt for Botman was considered, alternative Premier League centre-backs were floated instead. Burnley’s Jame Tarkowski and Liverpool’s Nat Phillips had been viewed as back-ups all window but, with Howe keen for a ball-player, he instead opted for Burn” just can’t see us going in for Tarkowski given we decided to get Burn instead in Jan as we saw him as a better ‘ball-player’. If anything, Burn will now move to third choice and we’ll get a better starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61659836 Pogba leaving on a free confirmed. Let's see if the rumours come back again. Expect he will head to Italy or France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Burnley fans disagree. Do they? I was checking their main forum before the first match against us this season, and most of them preferred Mee and Collins over Tarkowski whom they wanted to cash in on in January as Collins in their eyes was a ready made replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Conjo said: Do they? I was checking their main forum before the first match against us this season, and most of them preferred Mee and Collins over Tarkowski whom they wanted to cash in on in January as Collins in their eyes was a ready made replacement. https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=62209 I'm sure I read something about most agreeing to that he'd been their second best player this season. Couldn't find the fred, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Conjo said: Do they? I was checking their main forum before the first match against us this season, and most of them preferred Mee and Collins over Tarkowski whom they wanted to cash in on in January as Collins in their eyes was a ready made replacement. Collins is a pretty decent prospect tbf. Plus, of course you’d want to cash in if it’s obvious he won’t sign a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 As I commented about 100 posts ago on this thread Tarkowski is gash. Watched him closely since we were linked with him last December, he's no better than what we have including captain calamity!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, Manxst said: From The Athletic: “Carlos was no longer deemed attainable, and although one last attempt for Botman was considered, alternative Premier League centre-backs were floated instead. Burnley’s Jame Tarkowski and Liverpool’s Nat Phillips had been viewed as back-ups all window but, with Howe keen for a ball-player, he instead opted for Burn” just can’t see us going in for Tarkowski given we decided to get Burn instead in Jan as we saw him as a better ‘ball-player’. If anything, Burn will now move to third choice and we’ll get a better starter. FWIW Tarkowski was bought by Brentford and played for Brentford as a ball playing CB - it’s just that Burnley used him a different way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, DMLeazesender said: As I commented about 100 posts ago on this thread Tarkowski is gash. Watched him closely since we were linked with him last December, he's no better than what we have including captain calamity!! Ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: Ridiculous We must be watching a different player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 We’re so far apart on this, probably just best to agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 For the wages he’d want, it’s pointless. On £120k, he’d be one of, if not our highest paid player. I want a decent young player for that who is good and can grow with the club, like a defensive Bruno. Badiashile or Botman for instance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Tarkowski is solid at RCB and woeful at LCB. I wouldn't be picking him over Schar and he'll want first team football, so it seems like a non-starter. I could see him going to Everton to replace Keane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 https://lchunhang.medium.com/player-analysis-james-tarkowski-englands-most-overlooked-defender-a61aa5b1d030 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Fuck knows who chunhang is but he definitely wants to bot Tarkowski. Decent read tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, McCormick said: We’re so far apart on this, probably just best to agree to disagree. Agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 The wages Lingard and Tarkowski are after is crazy. Two nothing players most of their careers. The game is broken on so many levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: https://lchunhang.medium.com/player-analysis-james-tarkowski-englands-most-overlooked-defender-a61aa5b1d030 Yeah, written last year, when people were saying he was good off the back of a decent season. This year he hasn’t reached the same heights. Or been anywhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Shak said: If they think those three aren't any worse as options than the other players we have on the list then by all means get them. However, the focus should be on getting the best player, not the guy we can get a bit cheaper. If the choice is Asencio for 20m or spending double that to get a player that we think is genuinely top class then I expect us to go for the better player. No man ... you buy the best players you can get in relation to what your budget is. The three I mentioned are top players that just happen to be in their last year and so they are available at really good value, which means we can get even more quality into the squad. No chance they're just looking at them because of the price, as they would obviously have to rate them as well, that goes without saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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