Kid Icarus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I think the stereotypical descriptions are less prominent than they were a few years ago TBF. ‘Power’ and ‘lack of football brain’ used to be applied to so many black players. Commentators and pundits must be so aware of it now. Just laughing to myself imagining it going the other way and no one getting any credit for anything that could be seen as positive discrimination. Son working really hard as he usually does and the commentator doing everything they can to mention that he's hard working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, madras said: Dunno, I remember the likes of Kompany and Viera being described as intelligent. Throw in Desailly as well. Yeah that's a good point re Vieira especially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 There's a weird lack of black GKs in European football relative to other positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, madras said: Dunno, I remember the likes of Kompany and Viera being described as intelligent. Throw in Desailly as well. After Italia ‘90 with the emergence of Cameroon and then USA ‘94 with Nigeria, there was a kind of a groundswell that it wouldn’t be too long before an African nation won the WC, but even then the general opinion was that African players lacked intelligence and were naive which was racially biased IMO and somewhat racist too. Again, I’ve said it before, I’d rate African players or players of African heritage as up there with the Brazilians as the most skilful, talented and players of genuine flair of any other continent. We have a large African community here in Newcastle and I’d love us to one day have a player represent us from that continent, born here or not, play for us and fucking smash it, hopefully being a selfish little white englander, and also represent the 3 Lions. Imagine a Geordie Mane man for us. Hopefully my son will be that kid one day and if not from what I’ve seen, I guarantee someone will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: After Italia ‘90 with the emergence of Cameroon and then USA ‘94 with Nigeria, there was a kind of a groundswell that it wouldn’t be too long before an African nation won the WC, but even then the general opinion was that African players lacked intelligence and were naive which was racially biased IMO and somewhat racist too. Again, I’ve said it before, I’d rate African players or players of African heritage as up there with the Brazilians as the most skilful, talented and players of genuine flair of any other continent. We have a large African community here in Newcastle and I’d love us to one day have a player represent us from that continent, born here or not, play for us and fucking smash it, hopefully being a selfish little white englander, and also represent the 3 Lions. Imagine a Geordie Mane man for us. Hopefully my son will be that kid one day and if not from what I’ve seen, I guarantee someone will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) “African”, it seems to me, always means west African, which may be a little odd. Are Algerians, Moroccans, South Africans subject to the same cliches? I don’t think so. Also, I have no idea about differences between the game as it is played in Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, etc. There must be. We distinguish between typically English, Dutch, German, and Italian players. Or at least skill sets that are particularly prized by those football cultures. Probably just my own ignorance. Edited July 7, 2022 by gazza ladra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Probably already posted but the wording was interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 7 hours ago, The Prophet said: That has to have been James? you were literally the 4th person to reply to that thread so engage your fucking brain (oh sorry forgot you didn’t have one) before you go around slurring people as racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jaqen said: Someone good at least, although Shola is a good lad! Edited July 8, 2022 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 hours ago, gazza ladra said: “African”, it seems to me, always means west African, which may be a little odd. Are Algerians, Moroccans, South Africans subject to the same cliches? I don’t think so. Also, I have no idea about differences between the game as it is played in Nigeria, Cameroon, Ghana, etc. There must be. We distinguish between typically English, Dutch, German, and Italian players. Or at least skill sets that are particularly prized by those football cultures. Probably just my own ignorance. I think people think of Africans mostly from West Africa as you say. My mate who is a Mzungo and born in Kenya, when he tells people he’s African they go whu… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 hours ago, toontownman said: Probably already posted but the wording was interesting. Has he had a bit of a fall from grace? I remember him looking shit-hot a few years ago. I'd be worried he might be what James Rodriguez was for Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Has he had a bit of a fall from grace? I remember him looking shit-hot a few years ago. I'd be worried he might be what James Rodriguez was for Everton. Unbelievably good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, James said: you were literally the 4th person to reply to that thread so engage your fucking brain (oh sorry forgot you didn’t have one) before you go around slurring people as racist. I wasn't slurring you as a racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Has he had a bit of a fall from grace? I remember him looking shit-hot a few years ago. I'd be worried he might be what James Rodriguez was for Everton. Don’t think he’s ever recovered from his ACL injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Broja only wants a permanent move away according to this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 That sounds like another one that we've held talks about, but there's no concrete interest yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: That sounds like another one that we've held talks about, but there's no concrete interest yet. We may only want a loan deal for him according to Waugh, may well rule us out altogether if he only wants a permanent move. Unless we can negotiate a loan with obligation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 His song is sorted. He's big, he's tall, he never scores a goal. Broja, Broja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Another Zirkzee link -> Newcastle one step closer to ‘deadly’ £10m signing thanks to Wolves (hitc.com) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Would he really mind if it was loan with obligation to buy on end of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 I would rather an option to buy rather than obligation. I like Broja but I assume any option to buy will be close to £30m for a striker with 6 EPL goals in 20+ appearances. He wasn't even prolific in Holland. For comparison - Tammy had torn up the Championship by this point in his development. Had a poor year in the EPL in the following season mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, arnonel said: Another Zirkzee link -> Newcastle one step closer to ‘deadly’ £10m signing thanks to Wolves (hitc.com) This would interest me far more than Broja tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 dont fancy Broja Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 10 hours ago, HTT II said: One of my fave ever comedians There’s a bit in that clip about Dog the Bounty Hunter, he’s on the Dennis Miller show.. gets me every single time. The man was a genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 10 hours ago, HTT II said: After Italia ‘90 with the emergence of Cameroon and then USA ‘94 with Nigeria, there was a kind of a groundswell that it wouldn’t be too long before an African nation won the WC, but even then the general opinion was that African players lacked intelligence and were naive which was racially biased IMO and somewhat racist too. Again, I’ve said it before, I’d rate African players or players of African heritage as up there with the Brazilians as the most skilful, talented and players of genuine flair of any other continent. We have a large African community here in Newcastle and I’d love us to one day have a player represent us from that continent, born here or not, play for us and fucking smash it, hopefully being a selfish little white englander, and also represent the 3 Lions. Imagine a Geordie Mane man for us. Hopefully my son will be that kid one day and if not from what I’ve seen, I guarantee someone will! I remember people saying they just needed some quality coaching, but I'm certain they were thinking along the lines of Big Sam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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