Fantail Breeze Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, SUPERTOON said: I still think we could get Lingard permanently He doesn’t want a permanent move, been reported all January that has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ohh Henderson would be good. Desperately need a cb and a pacey forward/ rw option though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: He doesn’t want a permanent move, been reported all January that has. We will see tomorrow but it’s literally that or he doesn’t kick a ball, still think a relegation clause could sway it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: I still think we could get Lingard permanently Hope so. But don't think he fancies us permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We will see tomorrow but it’s literally that or he doesn’t kick a ball, still think a relegation clause could sway it. He can also not kick a ball for five months and then get a bumper payday on his Bosman and a choice of any club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Don't think Henderson is any better than Dubravka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: We will see tomorrow but it’s literally that or he doesn’t kick a ball, still think a relegation clause could sway it. A permanent move now scuppers a shit load of signing on cash for both him and his agent in 5 months time. He surely wants playing time, but simply can’t see him signing a perm deal this window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Howe absolutely loves a British transfer Whats wrong with that, especially in our current position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Shore up the defence and Dubravka would be fine. He’s making mistakes coz he’s no confidence in those in front of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Why would Man Utd not take the piss on this loan deal? Like the reportedly have with us and Martial and with Lingard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Why would Man Utd charge us extortionate figures for Lingard but not Henderson? Don't see this one happening for that reason alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Whats wrong with that, especially in our current position? Generally over priced and over hyped. Hard to find good value in the British market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Barnes23 said: Don't think Henderson is any better than Dubravka. Me either. At least not at present. It’s a bit of a weird one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, 54 said: Whats wrong with that, especially in our current position? I don’t think those players are any better than what we have, excluding Tripper. Wood, Henderson, Burn. Think there is better value elsewhere too. Also his transfer record at Bournemouth was limited because of his weird obsession with British buys. Not convinced he’s the man to kick us on unless the transfer dealings are taken away from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Dubravka is massively overrated; Henderson is a huge upgrade on him. Edited January 30, 2022 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, gdm said: Why would Man Utd not take the piss on this loan deal? Like the reportedly have with us and Martial and with Lingard Just now, PlymouthGeordie said: Why would Man Utd charge us extortionate figures for Lingard but not Henderson? Don't see this one happening for that reason alone. Because they’d simply lose Lingaard at the end of the loan so want what they can get/ask for him? Henderson isn’t out of contract, so if he plays well, it means he returns to them with better reputation, playing time etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 We give Lingard signing on cash now, and he walks on a near free if we go down would mean more signing on cash in the summer. If he just wants money, he can do an Oscar and go to whatever minor league has the most cash in 2022. Re:Henderson, I wanted a backup keeper but didn't expect it to be Dubs. Presumably we only get Henderson if we promise to start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: Because they’d simply lose Lingaard at the end of the loan so want what they can get/ask for him? Henderson isn’t out of contract, so if he plays well, it means he returns to them with better reputation, playing time etc. yes. I get the lingard one That’s why I asked about them reportedly doing the same to us with Martial. Don’t just answer half the question Man Utd aren’t going to do us any favours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Hopefully we are in for Origi or Minamino Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Ultimately If we get say a winger, striker and ar least 1 cb in having Henderson would be a bonus. Should mean the end of Darlow which is to be celebrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 So are we saying all of our British links are Howe's buys? And all of the foreign links aren't his? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, gdm said: yes. I get the lingard one That’s why I asked about them reportedly doing the same to us with Martial. Don’t just answer half the question Man Utd aren’t going to do us any favours I didn’t see anything about us asking for martial and their demands? What was that? I’m simply replying about the difference between Lingaard and Henderson. Jesus. 🤷♂️🤦♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: I don’t think those players are any better than what we have, excluding Tripper. Wood, Henderson, Burn. Think there is better value elsewhere too. Also his transfer record at Bournemouth was limited because of his weird obsession with British buys. Not convinced he’s the man to kick us on unless the transfer dealings are taken away from him. Given the size of a club like Bournemouth their transfers were probably limited in scope tbf. Can go on about being 'obsessed' with British buys but players like Bruno and attempts for Carlos, Botman and Bakker/Digne would suggest that given our resources and size he has scope to go for players that were unachievable for Bournemouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Dubravka has been poor and also can’t be relied on with his fitness, decent deal I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: I don’t think those players are any better than what we have, excluding Tripper. Wood, Henderson, Burn. Think there is better value elsewhere too. Also his transfer record at Bournemouth was limited because of his weird obsession with British buys. Not convinced he’s the man to kick us on unless the transfer dealings are taken away from him. I do see your point long term. Assuming Howe is here for the next few years. It would also be a concern of mine if he had a big say in transfers in the years ahead. All that said. In the here and now. I think Henderson is clearly better than Dubravka. Based on only seeing him a few times and from watching our centre backs for the last 2-3 seasons. Burn is surely an upgrade, as well? Bit uninspiring after the players from abroad we spent weeks chasing. But there you go. Wood was overpriced. But it felt like that was a bit of a needs must signing to fill in for Wilson. We should have had a back up to him already, of course. Not sure it was ever meant to be an upgrade on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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