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43 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

Am I missing something? Paqueta is more valuable than Bruno . 


Agreed. He’s legit starter for Brazil now right?

 

36 minutes ago, Ikon said:

My guess is 44m plus various extra. European qualification and so on. Initial fee 44 that could rise to say 54 or similar 

 

Hardy was saying 50m could get it done a few days ago. 
 

1 hour ago, Rich said:

If we want him, we’ll get him for less than his clause. They finished 8th didn’t they?

 

I guess. Seems like we’re doing some weird “nahhhh too expensive” press offensive. 

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6 minutes ago, Kanji said:


Agreed. He’s legit starter for Brazil now right?

 

 

Hardy was saying 50m could get it done a few days ago. 
 

 

I guess. Seems like we’re doing some weird “nahhhh too expensive” press offensive. 

 

I mean it might've coincided with great form in the fall, but for the past 5-6 games for the national side it's been him and Raphinha as the two main star. Paqueta is as long as he doesn't fall off a cliff a starter and one of the main stars for Brazil playing behind Neymar and interchanging as he moves up top and Neymar comes and picks the ball up deep with Vini and Raphinha out wide. In a 4-5-1/4-2-3-1 position. 

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1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

People are dreaming if they think we can get 10 million apiece for Hayden and Lascelles, we might get it combined for the both.

 

If Tyrone Mings is worth 30m and Harry Winks 25m then 10m each is not that much of a stretch.

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1 minute ago, Comegetasample said:

 

If Tyrone Mings is worth 30m and Harry Winks 25m then 10m each is not that much of a stretch.

It is, both of them are England internationals (I don’t rate either btw).

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24 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

People are dreaming if they think we can get 10 million apiece for Hayden and Lascelles, we might get it combined for the both.

We definitely would 

Hayden is 27 years old with multiple years of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/isaac-hayden/profil/spieler/206225

 

Lascelles is 28 years old 

again with lots of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamaal-lascelles/profil/spieler/183318

 

 

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1 minute ago, JonBez comesock said:

We definitely would 

Hayden is 27 years old with multiple years of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/isaac-hayden/profil/spieler/206225

 

Lascelles is 28 years old 

again with lots of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamaal-lascelles/profil/spieler/183318

 

 

We wouldn’t 

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We would get at least what we paid for Burn, for Lascelles. He's younger and our captain, and despite what some believe, a PL CB.

 

Hayden we will be lucky to get 4m for. He's a good championship CM in every sense.

 

So we could get 20m for both of them, if we are lucky.

 

Lascelles isn't worth selling, as he would need replacing and therefore we wouldn't gain anything financially.

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We've 32 senior players on our books. Ideally we'll get rid of 10+ of them this summer, but that's probably too much to do in one window.

 

I think we'll be stuck with some of the current deadwood for a few more windows.

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39 minutes ago, The Butcher said:

We've 32 senior players on our books. Ideally we'll get rid of 10+ of them this summer, but that's probably too much to do in one window.

 

I think we'll be stuck with some of the current deadwood for a few more windows.

 Heavily subsidised loans are more likely just to get them off the books is more likely than sales while it doesn't help much towards balancing the books the club unlike previously don't need the funds literally and are aware of how limited some of the lads are hampered by either ability or too good of a contract to walk away on. 

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I’m not sure, I think the biggest earner was Shelvey before.. around 80k, still an obscene amount but the other lads are likely on far less, that’s well within the majority of even upper Championship level teams, never mind PL.

 

A lot of them can find parity in terms of wages while dropping to a more suitable level for their ability.

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Players like Gayle, you pretty much have to give away for nowt, if you want a championship club to give him a decent wage.

 

Again, he'd be a no brainer for the likes of Sunderland.

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1 minute ago, STM said:

Players like Gayle, you pretty much have to give away for nowt, if you want a championship club to give him a decent wage.

 

Again, he'd be a no brainer for the likes of Sunderland.

Is his Mam still alive? She'll need her weatherproof poncho for the car park on match days 

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Speaking of Moussa Diaby. Hasn’t he faded quite badly after some great form earlier on? Seems quite raw the little I’ve seen of him. Has scored and assisted quite a few tbf. Personally I think I’d go for someone else. Not that I’d complain if we got him like. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, JonBez comesock said:

We definitely would 

Hayden is 27 years old with multiple years of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/isaac-hayden/profil/spieler/206225

 

Lascelles is 28 years old 

again with lots of premier league experience 

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jamaal-lascelles/profil/spieler/183318

 

 

 

Agree, we tend to undervalue our own players, they might not be CL players, but even a decent championship player costs you that much. They are solid pros.

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Presumably we can afford to subsidise any amount of the wages of anyone we don’t want. We won’t be stuck with anyone. We could even just keep paying them and not have them in the squad, if it came to that. 
 

I can’t see incomings being affected by that issue. 

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