RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, nufc123 said: Yeah and Carroll wasnt that much worse. Think that says it all. Many games we go unbeaten with Top notch leading the line ? Give over man ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ankles Bennett said: I wouldn't expect to see Wilson again this season. He's too injury prone and will surely break down if he comes back too early Maybe. Either way we're buying a big money forward this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 It really hasn't worked out well for us this one, but you know, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: Many games we go unbeaten with Top notch leading the line ? Give over man ffs As a body on the pitch hes done ok. As a striker its been terrible. Give over yourself. Krafth has done his job (in some games) you satisfied with him as RB? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Unless we had spent £50+ in Jan it was always going to be like this. No ‘OK’ striker will look good in our team, especially not his type. I get why we signed him because of his clause etc, and we had a desperate need. But he’s going to look poor when we have no opportunities to cross or link up with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, nufc123 said: As a body on the pitch hes done ok. As a striker its been terrible. Give over yourself. Krafth has done his job (in some games) you satisfied with him as RB? Well yes tbh, Krafth has played his part in keeping us up, every part of me just needed us to stay up this year, how we did it was & still is unimportant Be thankful for small mercies I think, 5 months ago we had Steve fat fuck bruce telling us how lucky we were to have him in charge with his "experience" so aye im delighted Krafth, Wood, Howe et al have arrived Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 If we hadn't have sign him and played Gayle that run wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have as many points as we do now simple as that. From that point of view he's served his purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 His work off the ball is phenomenal. He is what he is and helps the way we play ie high press/ capitalize on mistakes and knocking on the high ball... He is deffo not a mid/top of the table striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said: If we hadn't have sign him and played Gayle that run wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have as many points as we do now simple as that. From that point of view he's served his purpose. Absolutely nothing to justify that fact whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 06/03/2022 at 11:53, The Prophet said: If he plays his part in keeping us in the division, as he has done to date, then he wasn't a waste of money. Still this. I'm unsure how you can give a striker with limited mobility too much stick in a 5-1 defeat where we had just 38% of the ball. Our fans just have a hard on for getting on his and ASM's backs as soon as things go even the slightest bit pear shaped, regardless whether their performances vindicates it or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Absolutely nothing to justify that fact whatsoever. Disagree, I don't think with Gayle up top we'd have seen that run of form. That's not to say Wood has been good, or that we might not have still got out of the relegation zone had we signed someone else instead of him, but I really don't think we'd have had a chance with Gayle up front. The fact Wood is struggling and Gayle still doesn't get a kick tells its own story. Edited April 3, 2022 by Joey Linton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 He's dogshit, let's stop pretending now, its ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: He's dogshit, let's stop pretending now, its ridiculous. No one is arguing otherwise, but hes been a part of the jigsaw that looks likely to keep us in the PL Hes zero long term future with us bit who cares ? played his part & for that im delighted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Unless we had spent £50+ in Jan it was always going to be like this. No ‘OK’ striker will look good in our team, especially not his type. I get why we signed him because of his clause etc, and we had a desperate need. But he’s going to look poor when we have no opportunities to cross or link up with him. Or he’s just poor because he’s a dinosaur of a striker. His limited skill set will only ever look half decent in a restive, cynical and direct setup. I’m not sure why proponents of playing modern football on here and elsewhere have given him a free pass for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 People are massively magnifying his contribution - he's been shit. It's like giving credit for having a measly drop of water in an otherwise dry desert, that's his time here so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I don't get why some people on this forum get so worked up about him (especially after a game in which our defence completely collapsed). We all knew we weren't getting a top striker in January, we were having bids turned down left right and centre and Wood was an easy transfer due to the release clause. Our form improved with him in the team (how much is down to him you can debate all you want), we are now likely to stay up and he will be replaced/become our 3rd or 4th choice striker next season. Nobody is arguing he's class or should lead the line next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Are some watching a different player, he is beaten most times in the air, he doesn't hold the ball up at all and he just doesn't get into the positions to score (the odd time he does he fucks it up). 25 fucking million dear me. Needs to be dropped for the next game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Callum Wilson cost us £20m. This guy cost us £25m to activate his release clause. They are both the same age but the difference between the two is universes and galaxies apart, I am not exactly sure what his key core strength is as I have not seen him excellent at any single quality so far during his time here. He's had little positives including the one goal but I am pretty certain for £25m there must have been a better option available somewhere. He was bought by who his agency/management are and the number of goals he somehow ended the season with the last few seasons, its a gamble that has had very minor return investment that if we weren't in the dire position we were back when we signed him you'd flat out call him a total flop. Edited April 3, 2022 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Was hoping he would do well here, nope hes fucking dog shit 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Way I see it, luckily not alone by a long chalk, is we had to get a forward and his release clause negated getting messed around all month ala Botman, Carlos, Lingard and fetch up with nothing and get certainly relegated, even if in the end we got someone, we'd have gone vital games with no forward. People say Weghorst but it would make sense that pretty much any club would dick us around to get more money in Jan. He's not good enough but I can live with the decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Or he’s just poor because he’s a dinosaur of a striker. His limited skill set will only ever look half decent in a restive, cynical and direct setup. I’m not sure why proponents of playing modern football on here and elsewhere have given him a free pass for so long. It wasn't about giving him a pass, it was about accepting the situation for what it was - a means to an end. We needed someone that was proven to score goals in this league. If you draw up a list of eligible candidates for the role they tended to fall down for at least one of three reasons; they weren't for sale, they didn't want to join a team in the relegation zone, or their club knew they had no need to sell and would leverage that in negotiations (Lille and Sevilla did exactly that). Whether you love or hate Chris Wood he's managed at least double figures in the league for the last five years. He can consider himself proven at Premier League level. Even then, we were only able to sign him because of a release clause, and so the club assumed if we gave him chances he'd do a solid job of converting while offering us some kind of nuisance presence up top. Now, where I agree with you is that Wood does rely heavily on a very specific style that we just don't play. He thrives on crosses and loose balls in the box, and I also believe he's at his best when working with a strike partner that creates space for him. If we'd missed out on an obviously better candidate I could understand the frustration. Even Wout Weghorst - the man painted as an infinitely better deal - has managed the same goal return playing in a side that is actually set up toward him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 He's caught the Joelinton bug, seems terrified of getting it scoring position or doing something useful in the box, there was a change in the second half where we had the ball on the right wing and all he had to do was run into the empty space in front of him in order to be in a great position to score and he just to stay back, we really really need him to step up in the next few games, or else i don't mind seeing Gayle or even one of the reserve strikers get a shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Newcastle Fan said: He's caught the Joelinton bug, seems terrified of getting it scoring position or doing something useful in the box, there was a change in the second half where we had the ball on the right wing and all he had to do was run into the empty space in front of him in order to be in a great position to score and he just to stay back, we really really need him to step up in the next few games, or else i don't mind seeing Gayle or even one of the reserve strikers get a shot. I must admit I don't know if we create a ton of chances for strikers in this system either. Wilson's record at Bournemouth was very mediocre bar one season and we see how good he is with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, Thiago said: I must admit I don't know if we create a ton of chances for strikers in this system either. Wilson's record at Bournemouth was very mediocre bar one season and we see how good he is with us. Willson was slightly better than a 1 in 3 striker at Bournemouth. His record is slightly better than that here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiago Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Willson was slightly better than a 1 in 3 striker at Bournemouth. His record is slightly better than that here. 6 in 20, 8 in 28, and 8 in 35. I'd say that's closer to 1 in 4 than 1 in 2. His record here is hard to validate given the injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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