Bruno Guimarães

[TRon]

Hope he just went off for cramp or something and there isn't any injury worry.

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

Hope he just went off for cramp or something and there isn't any injury worry.

Howe confirmed it as cramp, I believe. Also a comment about how that was a proper welcome to the Premier League. 
 

He is so classy. Always finding space and wanting the ball and to then progress it. Which is what our midfield desperately needs. But he did get caught on the ball a few times and lost it 2-3 times in quick succession at the end before coming off. 
 

Excited to see how good he can be once he has had a run of games in the side. 
 

[Decky]

7 hours ago, WillingtonMag said:

Is that him back on the bench though? Joelinton back in for next game and just can't see Howe dropping Shelvey.

 

Might see Willock move up in place of Murphy if ASM is still injured with Bruno then going into midfield. 

[NEEJ]

7 hours ago, et tu brute said:

 

Willock's stumble in the celebration is class 

Looks like he properly stacks it.

[Lush Vlad]

7 hours ago, WillingtonMag said:

Is that him back on the bench though? Joelinton back in for next game and just can't see Howe dropping Shelvey.

Can’t see him being dropped after that performance and a bit of cramp? A few sloppy passages of play and it was a steep learning curve for him. But he looked superb at times and scored a wonder goal. 

[Flip]

As I stated when we signed him. He’s a great passer of the ball and very eager, but he lacks the physicality and while it still worked with Jonjo, we need a hard working defensive midfielder next to him to cover ground. I think Big Joe might be the perfect partner in the offensive sense, but neither him nor Bruno can play the sitting DM position imo. 

[Manxst]

2 minutes ago, Flip said:

As I stated when we signed him. He’s a great passer of the ball and very eager, but he lacks the physicality and while it still worked with Jonjo, we need a hard working defensive midfielder next to him to cover ground. I think Big Joe might be the perfect partner in the offensive sense, but neither him nor Bruno can play the sitting DM position imo. 

?Hence why we’ve been linked with the likes of Kamara and Fofana since December, and into this coming summer.

[Guest HTT II]

I liked how eager he was to drive forward and he looks for early passes or one twos a lot, he’s not quick but moves quick if that makes sense, and moves the ball even quicker. His goal was world-class. He’ll be fine, especially with better quality around him.

[AJ9]

6 minutes ago, Flip said:

As I stated when we signed him. He’s a great passer of the ball and very eager, but he lacks the physicality and while it still worked with Jonjo, we need a hard working defensive midfielder next to him to cover ground. I think Big Joe might be the perfect partner in the offensive sense, but neither him nor Bruno can play the sitting DM position imo. 

Remember lads, he’s shit

[The College Dropout]

Needs to adapt to the pace and physicality. 
 

him and Shelley aren’t ideal for each other. Both lack a bit physically. 

[Lazarus]

3 hours ago, Nine said:

 

 

Meester Bruno

[jackyboy]

Just been reading on the Saints forum about Bruno's lucky goal. Apparently 99 times out of a hundred he would have put it over the bar and it was pure luck. Maybe I watched a different game

[samptime29]

Watched the goal like 20 times 

[The Merse]

46 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Needs to adapt to the pace and physicality. 
 

him and Shelley aren’t ideal for each other. Both lack a bit physically. 

I think we missed Joelinton in there last night - he bullies the opposition 

[Conjo]

27 minutes ago, jackyboy said:

Just been reading on the Saints forum about Bruno's lucky goal. Apparently 99 times out of a hundred he would have put it over the bar and it was pure luck. Maybe I watched a different game

 

There is definitely an element of luck to that goal. Suggesting otherwise would be silly. That being said, it was clear that he pulled off a move as he intended. 

[Hanshithispantz]

Outside of sitters every goal is luck (and even then there's an element of luck). No footballer ever has had the ability to perfectly connect with a ball and place it exactly where they want it at all times 

 

Literally every single one of Ward-Prowse's free kicks have essentially been lucky. 

 

The better you are at something just improves the odds of pulling it off.

 

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[gjohnson]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Outside of sitters every goal is luck (and even then there's an element of luck). No footballer ever has had the ability to perfectly connect with a ball and place it exactly where they want it at all times 

 

Literally every single one of Ward-Prowse's free kicks have essentially been lucky. 

 

The better you are at something just improves the odds of pulling it off.

 

 

 

Wasn't it Jack Nicklaus that said 'the more i practice the luckier i get' ?

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, gjohnson said:

Wasn't it Jack Nicklaus that said 'the more i practice the luckier i get' ?

Fuck knows, it's true though isn't it 

[Wandy]

45 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

There is definitely an element of luck to that goal. Suggesting otherwise would be silly. That being said, it was clear that he pulled off a move as he intended. 

 

There was nothing lucky about it whatsoever, he absolutely meant to score from it. If he had been forward facing and it was a regular volley would that have been lucky too?

[Hanshithispantz]

10 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

There was nothing lucky about it whatsoever, he absolutely meant to score from it. If he had been forward facing and it was a regular volley would that have been lucky too?

I mean you can call it what you want but anything that inherently has a probability attatched to it requires a degree of luck. Which is what Conjo is getting at I think. The lower the probability the greater the 'luck'.

 

It's just silly for anyone (like the Southampton fans who have apparently said this) to single out particular goals as being 'lucky' when the player has pulled off what they attempted, as they would have to concede that pretty much all of their own speculative goals are also lucky.

 

It's semantics but 'lucky' is usually only applied to players scoring from a misshit, or something out of their control. That is technically wrong though.

 

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

Still cannat get over that finish.

[Wandy]

24 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

I mean you can call it what you want but anything that inherently has a probability attatched to it requires a degree of luck. Which is what Conjo is getting at I think. The lower the probability the greater the 'luck'.

 

It's just silly for anyone (like the Southampton fans who have apparently said this) to single out particular goals as being 'lucky' when the player has pulled off what they attempted, as they would have to concede that pretty much all of their own speculative goals are also lucky.

 

It's semantics but 'lucky' is usually only applied to players scoring from a misshit, or something out of their control. That is technically wrong though.

 

Nah, I disagree. It was an outrageous strike and, just because it's not something you see very often, it doesn't make it lucky. The intent was there in a flash of his mind. Was Cisse's curler against Chelsea just lucky? Or what about Shearer's volley against Everton? Yeah both of those could have ended up in Row Z but they didn't, and the fact that the intention for those goals came to fruition doesn't mean they were just lucky.

 

Bruno's goal would have been lucky if he had just stuck his boot out to make any kind of contact but that's not what happened. The intention was there to clearly see.

[Guest HTT II]

He meant it, executed it perfectly and it worked, nothing lucky or fluky about it. 

[LFEE]

3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

Howe confirmed it as cramp, I believe. Also a comment about how that was a proper welcome to the Premier League. 
 

He is so classy. Always finding space and wanting the ball and to then progress it. Which is what our midfield desperately needs. But he did get caught on the ball a few times and lost it 2-3 times in quick succession at the end before coming off. 
 

Excited to see how good he can be once he has had a run of games in the side. 
 

Sounds like Howe knew what he was doing with him all along ?

[Hanshithispantz]

10 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

Nah, I disagree. It was an outrageous strike and, just because it's not something you see very often, it doesn't make it lucky. The intent was there in a flash of his mind. Was Cisse's curler against Chelsea just lucky? Or what about Shearer's volley against Everton? Yeah both of those could have ended up in Row Z but they didn't, and the fact that the intention for those goals came to fruition doesn't mean they were just lucky.

 

Bruno's goal would have been lucky if he had just stuck his boot out to make any kind of contact but that's not what happened. The intention was there to clearly see.

I agree with you I'm just saying if people want to play the semantics game every goal has 'luck' behind it as every goal is on a scale of probability. 

 

No football fan would actually call that a 'lucky' goal unless they were being disingenuous. It was a 'low probability' effort though, same as any 25 yarder.

 

 

 

Edited March 11, 2022 by Hanshithispantz