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How did Perez dare to do that celebration after being booed by the idiots for ages and then had the nerve to leave Ashley's project for Leicester for the paltry sum of 30 million? 

 

ffs :lol:

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Off topic but can I just say, I am loving this thread. It's the only time I've felt I could fully contribute something without asking questions. Loving reading through the opinions too, proper smiling whilst going through the thread. 

 

Thank you so much ???

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18 minutes ago, Stal said:

 

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Aye, I bet he won a fair few free kicks using his run, trick, fall over routine then as well ?

He basically stopped dribbling about 10 years ago mate :lol:

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Maybe slightly off topic, but players who were perpetually injured for a good part of their career: e.g Owen Hargreaves, Ledley King etc but everyone still swore they were world class. Seems overhyped if you can't physically play a match :dontknow:

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1 hour ago, kingxlnc said:

Micah Richards given he is everywhere as a pundit, perhaps is able to glorify and overrate his past a little. Because of his louder than life personality, he is seated with bona fide legends of the Premier League in Shearer, Lineker, Keane, Neville, Henry etc as peers, whereas he was only good a for a few seasons before Zabaleta ensured he never got a look in, again. 


Everyone knows he wasn’t a top player though, including himself. 

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2 hours ago, Stal said:

This for me. Watched him a few times live at the match and obviously loads on tv.

 

It's just "run, trick, run, failed trick, dive, whine and gesture at the ref"

 

*disclaimer: remember I got more and more disinterested in football as the ashley years went on so maybe he improved but I've been watching him at man u and his attitude is just as bad as I remember.

 

Run, trick, run, failed trick, dive, whine, become the highest scoring player in the history of football. 

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4 hours ago, kingxlnc said:

Legend obviously at Roma, one club man and all that but I never got the hype around Totti. Never really saw 'talismanic' performances from him, that I did from the likes of Del Piero,  Zola et al. 


Totti, in his prime, was an unbelievable player. 

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I'm probably going to attract some right pelters here - and it isn't the intent - but Ronaldinho firmly sits in that 'good player but not great' for me.  Flat-track bully who never grabbed hold of any 'big' games that I saw.  Genuinely world class players do - Maradona, Messi, Zidane, C Ronaldo, real Ronaldo, van Basten etc etc - had some of their best games in the biggest matches.

 

I'd second some of the bigger names listed here *cough Totti cough* but I think I've likely expressed an unpopular enough one!

 

 

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1 hour ago, Cronky said:

 

Good shout. Great finisher and tailor-made for that Liverpool side, but the hype has got way too much.

 

155 goals and 62 assists in 249 games for Liverpool, he's world class. I try to tune out of punditry  so I've no doubt missed some overkill.

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15 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I'd second some of the bigger names listed here *cough Totti cough*

 

Just the 786 apps during a 25-year(!) career for your boyhood club scoring over 300 goals and countless assists. Led Roma to it's third Scudetto and two Italian cup trophies. Won the World Cup and lost the final of the Euros despite being chosen the MotM, in the all star team for both tournaments. 

 

Underrated imo.

 

 

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I mean Shearer is obviously a legend at NUFC but I don’t think the word exists to describe what Totti is to historically similarly sized (or even smaller based on trophies) Roma.

 

 

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I always think Perez exemplifies the harsh treatment that attacking midfielders/wingers who also can play as strikers get (another example being Rashford, poor as he’s been recently). They don’t play as out-and-out strikers and play positions not much different to wingers that won’t get near to double figures in goals, but don’t get near the same level of criticism. Pretty sure Perez has often played a very similar to role to Fraser and Almiron, who don’t get abuse despite very low goals and assists numbers. 

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5 hours ago, kingxlnc said:

George Weah seemed overrated - maybe I was too young. But was he really better than Shearer in that title-winning year at Blackburn Rovers where he won Ballon D'or? (1995)


can’t have this at all. I absolutely idolized George Weah at that time, he was sensational. 

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3 hours ago, Cronky said:

 

Good shout. Great finisher and tailor-made for that Liverpool side, but the hype has got way too much.


Any opinion that you have that isn’t utter shite? Making me yearn for Crumpy.

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7 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I'm probably going to attract some right pelters here - and it isn't the intent - but Ronaldinho firmly sits in that 'good player but not great' for me.  Flat-track bully who never grabbed hold of any 'big' games that I saw.  Genuinely world class players do - Maradona, Messi, Zidane, C Ronaldo, real Ronaldo, van Basten etc etc - had some of their best games in the biggest matches.

 

I'd second some of the bigger names listed here *cough Totti cough* but I think I've likely expressed an unpopular enough one!

 

 

 

 

 

And rightly so, because that's not true at all. That's trying to rewrite history. ;)

 

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