MrRaspberryJam Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, toon25 said: Kaka Come off it. That's mental! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, MrRaspberryJam said: Come off it. That's mental! The player, not the poster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: Timely He was pure entertainment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, toon25 said: The player, not the poster. But, you know, KaKa the poster will make one too many mistakes. N-O admins will see what I already knew, and they go in there, they will march in there. They go, Right, yeah, toon25 was right. You've pissed off MrRaspberryJam and you've pissed off NEEJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: But, you know, KaKa the poster will make one too many mistakes. N-O admins will see what I already knew, and they go in there, they will march in there. They go, Right, yeah, toon25 was right. You've pissed off MrRaspberryJam and you've pissed off NEEJ. Perfect deployment sir! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: I think it’s interesting to wonder which players could’ve played any position on the pitch and still been outstanding. Messi would likely still be one of the best ever regardless of where he’d ended up (though maybe limited as a traditional CB due to his height). Would Maldini have made for a world class striker, for example? Not sure about striker, but Maldini would have easily been an excellent winger I reckon and at the end of his career could have done a job at defensive midfield. I know what you mean as well, the absolute best would have been great in more than one position (except goalkeeper) almost without exception Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: I think it’s interesting to wonder which players could’ve played any position on the pitch and still been outstanding. Messi would likely still be one of the best ever regardless of where he’d ended up (though maybe limited as a traditional CB due to his height). Would Maldini have made for a world class striker, for example? It's easier to be a defender IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) I also don't get this whole thing about scoring apparently being the hardest part of the game tbh. Without question the hardest part of the game for me was always dribbling past a smart defender who knows when to back off, double up, turn you away from goal etc. I've never thought that scoring's that hard. It's why I find the superhuman individual Messi goals mind blowing way beyond any goal stats on their own. Edited May 13, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, triggs said: It's easier to be a defender IMO I’m not sure I agree. It seems impossible to quantify, but it’d be interesting to see stats for “goals prevented” just like we do “goals scored.” Maybe there are already advanced metrics like that, I’m not sure. Not talking about saves, mind. The whole point of the game is to score more than your opponent, obviously. So every team’s energy is naturally directed towards that goal…often even teams that don’t actively have the ball! Not that any fucker can score goals, but being really good at preventing goals is a really underrated skill set IMO. Edited May 13, 2022 by Tomato Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 It’s a lot harder to do something creative with the ball, get past someone or score a goal than it is to block a shot, head something away or make a tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: It’s a lot harder to do something creative with the ball, get past someone or score a goal than it is to block a shot, head something away or make a tackle. This feels contradictory. A lot of disrespect coming in for defenders at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Froggy said: This feels contradictory. A lot of disrespect coming in for defenders at the moment. I’m just saying that from personal experience. I didn’t have the commitment to learn tricks etc or improve finishing but the other things were easier so I played there whenever I played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 22:41, Tomato Deuce said: Not that any fucker can score goals, but being really good at preventing goals is a really underrated skill set IMO. And even harder to appear to do so effortlessly a la Woodgate, Albert, Des Walker etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Jorginho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 38 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Jorginho. The talk of him winning the Ballon d'Or was insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 10/05/2022 at 16:17, Hanshithispantz said: Stormed out of the pub crying as a bairn after this. What pub were you at as a bairn at like 9/10am on a weekday? I was in year eight and first lessons got cancelled so we could all watch it in the hall on a big screen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: I was in year eight and first lessons got cancelled so we could all watch it in the hall on a big screen. We had the same. Robbie Keane's goal against Germany was one of the best memories of my childhood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: We had the same. Robbie Keane's goal against Germany was one of the best memories of my childhood. Middle of Leaving Cert English Paper 2 for me. We went into the exam when it was 1-0 to Germany. Some lad ran up to the exam hall and shouted "1-1. Robbie Keane in the last minute! Yeah!!" Whole exam hall erupted then we got back to writing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Froggy said: This feels contradictory. A lot of disrespect coming in for defenders at the moment. I offer two pieces of slightly contradictory conventional wisdom. 1) It is easier to coach good defending than good attacking, because the latter requires natural flair. 2) A team is strong from the back forwards, and the middle outwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 CB & goalie require certain physical gifts. But generally.. the more talented a footballer you are.. the further up the pitch you play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Ronaldinho inspired damn near every player playing the Premier League today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Ronaldinho was so special, was probably my favourite non-NUFC player when I was a kid apart from El Fenomeno. To see someone take the piss out of opposing players with such regularity. It’s only really Messi who has taken the piss out of people more but he’s done it in a more clinical way, whereas Ronaldinho’s way was so carefree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Ronaldinho was pure street football, a joy to watch, my boy is only 8 and he’s already an idol of his, he will be long remembered as one of the greatest and his skill set, wow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Okocha too, what a baller he was! My nephew learned all his skills watching his DVD years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 6 hours ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said: What pub were you at as a bairn at like 9/10am on a weekday? I was in year eight and first lessons got cancelled so we could all watch it in the hall on a big screen. We were allowed to start late about. Remember walking up to school nearly in tears ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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