cubaricho Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Tierney is quality but the injury record suggests we should stay clear Especially as LB is a position you don't really want to rotate too much (for Europe and Cups fair enough) and Howe has spoken about liking a settled defence, an injury prone player makes that difficult If he wants him I’m good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Some people wanted DCL last summer and i have the same feeling here regarding Tierney. It doesn't matter how well he can play if mostly injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Tierney is quality but the injury record suggests we should stay clear Especially as LB is a position you don't really want to rotate too much (for Europe and Cups fair enough) and Howe has spoken about liking a settled defence, an injury prone player makes that difficult The amount of analysis that goes into our signings they're not going to sign him if there’s a genuine risk he’s going to spend most of the time on the physio plinth. I’m not sure why people get so worried about this. Let the club do their research, investigations, whatever is needed. If we sign him then they clearly have done their background checks and aren’t concerned. I work as a physio so you’d think I’d be mahoosively worried about injury records but it just doesn’t concern me at all. Leave it to the medical team. Same goes for any player really we sign really. Edited May 17, 2023 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 12 hours ago, worthy said: So he’s been fit all this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Not being a doctor, I'm not sure how stuff works, if the injuries aren't in the same place, is it just bad luck Does a player become more susceptible to injuries? I'm assuming we pay the medical department to work this stuff out. They are more qualified than us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 An injury prone player coming in to play our high intensity style is a massive risk. Especially if we are paying big money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Tierney will be this Summer’s Nick Pope if he signs. Big fan of his. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) Saying that PL club's medical teams and experts are more qualified than us regarding the fitness subject there's no denying. However, it doesn't change the fact that clubs STILL do make gambles and mistakes here and there. I imagine it's it's tempting to take the risk price/quality wise if a player has had a poor injury record and hope that gold is struck. Not sure how many times it's been done through the years where you think "oh they are signing him despite the injury problems" only to see the same player be injured very frequently after that. I know fuck all about this kind of stuff. I've never played football at elite level but i've had all sorts of injuries, and different ones. I'd say it's not just "bad luck". My gut feeling is to stay away from these type of players even if they are class when fit and in form. Don't like tha gamble as its too much of a risk. I lite the saying "buy it nice or buy it twice" when it comes to most things. This doesn't mean that we have to waste money or only buy expensive players. Edited May 17, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, AJ9 said: Tierney will be this Summer’s Nick Pope if he signs. Big fan of his. Nobody is saying he isn’t a good player, the concern is his injury record along with our slim margin for error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, AJ9 said: Tierney will be this Summer’s Nick Pope if he signs. Big fan of his. A cheap and serviceable option for 2/3 years? He's better than that imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: An injury prone player coming in to play our high intensity style is a massive risk. Especially if we are paying big money. Then wouldn't our medical department know that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, STM said: Then wouldn't our medical department know that? They might know it but still take the massive risk due to quality and price. No thanks for me. Edited May 17, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, STM said: Then wouldn't our medical department know that? Hopefully they do and hopefully we avoid him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I don't even think 30m would be a risk even WITH his injury issues, he's that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 When fit he’s one of the most complete full-backs in the world. I’d definitely take him if the price is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Hopefully they do and hopefully we avoid him Hopefully they conclude there is no long term risk and hopefully they sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, McCormick said: When fit he’s one of the most complete full-backs in the world. I’d definitely take him if the price is right. Agree with this. I know he has had injury issues these past couple seasons. But if we sign him for anything less than £30m and he manages to move past those issues then it will be one of the best pieces of business we will have done since the takeover. He is a complete modern full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I’d be upset if we spent £30m on Tierney. I rate him highly, but the lack of game time and injury history surely means we don’t go near him for that much…. I want us to move away from the overpaying Chris Wood type signing which I’d liken this transfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Agent/paper talk, we won't get close to his wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, andyc35i said: I’d be upset if we spent £30m on Tierney. I rate him highly, but the lack of game time and injury history surely means we don’t go near him for that much…. I want us to move away from the overpaying Chris Wood type signing which I’d liken this transfer That’s a bit harsh on Tierney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, andyc35i said: I’d be upset if we spent £30m on Tierney. I rate him highly, but the lack of game time and injury history surely means we don’t go near him for that much…. I want us to move away from the overpaying Chris Wood type signing which I’d liken this transfer Whats similar between Tierney & Wood? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, McCormick said: When fit he’s one of the most complete full-backs in the world. I’d definitely take him if the price is right. You do have to wonder why Arsenal sought to replace him then. Is it just that they had the opportunity to buy an equally good LB in Zinchenko and took it figuring he might be a bit more durable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, KDT said: Whats similar between Tierney & Wood? Nothing at all. One is a fantastic (potentially elite) full back who has had some issues with injury. The other is a bottom half of the table target man who doesn't really get injured. £25m was probably an over-payment for Wood. £30m would be about right/potentially be an underpayment for Tierney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 21 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Cant see them getting much for them. Rice and Caicedo would be north of £150m Balogun & ASR is £50m-£60m. And that's all FFP profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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