Now That's What I Call Transfer Rumours! 7

[brummie]

Also one thing about Watkins, I think Emery is one of those managers who is happy to see goals from across the team and not load so much expectation on the striker(s). 
 

Watkins has six in the last seven games I think so is improving, plus we’ve scored in every game under Emery so he’s probably got a point. 
 

Watkins though, he’ll do something brilliant and then minutes later he’s missing one from six inches. We put a brilliant team move together against Palace which he fluffed by screwing wide from six feet. 
 

Genuinely, i reckon I could have finished that nine times out of ten. 
 

But then again, I’m not running non stop and making intelligent runs any time soon. 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2023 by brummie

[BonesJones]

Personally think we're better off avoiding signing English players, so we're not paying the premium often which will help with FFP, unless we need them to tick a box if we qualify for Europe (?).

 

I think we go the smart route and sign from elsewhere.

[Ronson333]

If Raphinha is available for the quoted £44m we should be all over that.

[KaKa]

1 hour ago, brummie said:

 

Emery loves him - so much he sold Ings and sent Archer out on loan and stuck with him as our only striker other than an MLS kid for the second half of the season. 
 

He’d never sell him. 

 
 

 

 

Tell them again @brummie, some of them didn't understand the point when I made it.

 

There's no world in which Villa are selling him to Newcastle United. No chance.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by KaKa

[KaKa]

4 hours ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Not that we would ever bid it but there's not a chance in hell they'd reject £100m for Watkins

 

3 hours ago, Infatuation Junkie said:

Bruno would even be accepted for a bid of 100 mill. 
 

 

 

So here's a question for you then ... if Villa came in and bid £100 million for Bruno do you think we'd accept that bid?

 

If you're still thinking about it, the answer is NO, not a chance that ever happens.

[geordie_b]

51 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

If you're still thinking about it, the answer is NO, not a chance that ever happens.

Na, no way, no way they sell, na

[Geordie Ahmed]

6 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

 

So here's a question for you then ... if Villa came in and bid £100 million for Bruno do you think we'd accept that bid?

 

If you're still thinking about it, the answer is NO, not a chance that ever happens.

I'm not thinking about it, I'd tell them to do one but why are you comparing Bruno to Ollie Watkins? They aren't on the same level

[wyn davies]

8 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

 

So here's a question for you then ... if Villa came in and bid £100 million for Bruno do you think we'd accept that bid?

 

If you're still thinking about it, the answer is NO, not a chance that ever happens.

Bruno will be going to Real M certainly not  Villa , regardless what they would hypothetically offer, I wouldn't fancy getting transferred to Villa

[Cronky]

8 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

 

So here's a question for you then ... if Villa came in and bid £100 million for Bruno do you think we'd accept that bid?

 

If you're still thinking about it, the answer is NO, not a chance that ever happens.

 

No, I buy you out.

 

 

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by Cronky

[Keegans Export]

How much did they sell Grealish for? Or was that a previous ownership?

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Keegans Export said:

How much did they sell Grealish for? Or was that a previous ownership?

100 million, but that was his buyout clause for a champions league club I believe.

[Shearergol]

I know that Villa are fairly cash rich, but what's their FFP status like? Any idea?

 

Not that we'd spend £100m on Watkins btw, not a chance in hell

[UpTheToon]

3 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

I know that Villa are fairly cash rich, but what's their FFP status like? Any idea?

 

Not that we'd spend £100m on Watkins btw, not a chance in hell

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/aston-villa-finances-202122?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

 

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Conclusion

While Villa continue to rely on the owners’ financial support, the turnaround in the club’s outlook is notable, bearing in mind the awful situation they inherited from Tony Xia in 2018, when Villa were perilously close to entering administration

The club’s stated plan continues to be “developing, recruiting and securing talented young players on long-term contracts to build asset value in our playing squad and to ensure long term sustainability”.

That sounds good, but there’s a long way to go before the club is genuinely sustainable (at least without selling their best player).

 

[brummie]

23 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

I know that Villa are fairly cash rich, but what's their FFP status like? Any idea?

 

Not that we'd spend £100m on Watkins btw, not a chance in hell

 

Why on earth would we consider selling him to you? Why would you want to offer £100m, as you said?

 

I think he's turned it around with us recently, but there's two things absolutely sure here - firstly, that he's never worth anything like £100m, so anyone even prepared to offer that much would be setting themselves up to get financially fucked every time they go for a player, and secondly, there is absolutely no way the owners would sell him unless the manager expressly wanted them to, and I struggle to think of a player Emery loves more than Watkins. And that's before the whole argument over whether he'd want to go or not.

 

The bigger point here is that there is no point the likes of us or you buying players like Watkins in any case - he's not the sort of acquisition needed to move to the next level, and worth remembering - even given the manager's love for him, one of our pressing priorities this summer is for another proven striker.

 

To explain that a bit better - I like what he has done under the manager, and wasteful though he is, he definitely does add a lot to our style of play. But even having said that, I'd be disappointed if we spent this summer buying players of that level, that's not going to be enough to move to the next level.

 

I don't watch enough of you to know which players to highlight here (maybe Almiron, but I know Howe has done this with several of your players) but to use our squad as an example, it's about getting better results from players you already have (in our case, Watkins, Luiz and McGinn obvious examples) and then buying better quality players to add in.

 

More of the same isn't really going to be enough.

 

 

[Kimbo]

I would only deal with premier league clubs under special circumstances, for example Maddison with his contract running out. Trying to get players that the other side want to keep and don’t need to sell is a good way of wasting time, energy, and money.

[brummie]

Actually, I will contradict myself on the 'more of the same' thing as I'd love more Boubacar Kamara's.

[sushimonster85]

While you're here @brummieI'm curious to hear what Villa fans think of the clubs current prospects/overall ambition. I feel like before the PIF takeover it was Villa who were best placed in terms of both wealth of owners, and their willingness to invest, to break into that top 7/6 consistently. Do the fanbase see that as being a lot harder now there's a team outside that traditional 'top 6' who, in theory (once FFP and commercial catches up) can match up with/outmatch most teams in Europe financially and would now be seen as the favourite to break in consistently over the course of the next couple seasons? Or do you still see a route through?

[The College Dropout]

The Stevie G experiment really set Villa back.

[lovejoy]

30 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

Why on earth would we consider selling him to you? Why would you want to offer £100m, as you said?

 

I think he's turned it around with us recently, but there's two things absolutely sure here - firstly, that he's never worth anything like £100m, so anyone even prepared to offer that much would be setting themselves up to get financially fucked every time they go for a player, and secondly, there is absolutely no way the owners would sell him unless the manager expressly wanted them to, and I struggle to think of a player Emery loves more than Watkins. And that's before the whole argument over whether he'd want to go or not.

 

The bigger point here is that there is no point the likes of us or you buying players like Watkins in any case - he's not the sort of acquisition needed to move to the next level, and worth remembering - even given the manager's love for him, one of our pressing priorities this summer is for another proven striker.

 

To explain that a bit better - I like what he has done under the manager, and wasteful though he is, he definitely does add a lot to our style of play. But even having said that, I'd be disappointed if we spent this summer buying players of that level, that's not going to be enough to move to the next level.

 

I don't watch enough of you to know which players to highlight here (maybe Almiron, but I know Howe has done this with several of your players) but to use our squad as an example, it's about getting better results from players you already have (in our case, Watkins, Luiz and McGinn obvious examples) and then buying better quality players to add in.

 

More of the same isn't really going to be enough.

 

 

 

 

This is a great post I think, exactly the same applies to us as you.

 

We need more bruno's, botman's and isaks and not more longstaff's, schar's and burn's (as good as they have been).

 

 

[The Prophet]

I'd definetly take another Schar. He's been one of the best centre backs in the league this season.

[Shearergol]

3 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

 

 

This is a great post I think, exactly the same applies to us as you.

 

We need more bruno's, botman's and isaks and not more longstaff's, schar's and burn's (as good as they have been).

 

 

 

Eh?

[Scoot]

4 minutes ago, lovejoy said:

 

 

This is a great post I think, exactly the same applies to us as you.

 

We need more bruno's, botman's and isaks and not more longstaff's, schar's and burn's (as good as they have been).

 

 

 

Very very harsh on Schar that like.

[sushimonster85]

Aye, very harsh. Even if we bring in a right sided CB in the Summer, I'd fully expect it to be a young'un with a lot of potential to be blooded in slowly. Schar and Botman are good for at least one more season after this. 

[brummie]

17 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said:

While you're here @brummieI'm curious to hear what Villa fans think of the clubs current prospects/overall ambition. I feel like before the PIF takeover it was Villa who were best placed in terms of both wealth of owners, and their willingness to invest, to break into that top 7/6 consistently. Do the fanbase see that as being a lot harder now there's a team outside that traditional 'top 6' who, in theory (once FFP and commercial catches up) can match up with/outmatch most teams in Europe financially and would now be seen as the favourite to break in consistently over the course of the next couple seasons? Or do you still see a route through?

 

There is definitely still a route through - we've got plenty of money to spend, and finally are bringing commercial operations into the modern world (new north stand end of this season, increased capacity), new Man City style inner city academy nextdoor to the ground, plus our owners have bought half of Vittoria Guimaraes and are bidding for the Vegas MLS franchise (Las Vegas Villans) and going down the multi-club route, so the ambition now is a world beyond what it had ever been before (even Lerner, who provided money and absolutely nothing else).

 

It's much, much harder to do what Man City did these days, it has to be done significantly more incrementally, and I am happy that we can do that and start to punch our weight way more than we have thus far.

 

I saw a table the other day showing since Emery arrived and we were fourth or fifth - that to me shows the damage we did to ourselves in playing the first third of the season with the managerial equivalent of playing in clown shoes. Gerrard averaged a point a game in his last 38 games with us, which is pathetic.

 

It's impressive what Howe has done thus far, but the season is far from over, it's where you are after 38 games that matters. We're only 7 points off top 6, rather than relegation fighters under Gerrard.

 

I am really positive, it is all looking good. After a sluggish couple of years, the youth policy is producing some proper quality (Archer and Ramsey at Boro, Iroegbunam at QPR), and we've got a top quality manager in.

 

It's positive all over the place, the only mis-step has been in hiring Gerrard in the first place and setting ourselves back a year. 

[Conjo]

All rumours around Sofyan Amrabat seems to have stopped after January. Does anyone that pay any attention to Serie A know how he has performed for Fiorentina after the WC? Seemed like a perfect fit for our formation as an anchor with Willock/Joelinton & Bruno either side of him.