Smal Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 only change I’d have made a bit earlier was ASM for Isak as I thought the latter was blowing a bit and his defensive work was understandably suffering. As it were he stayed on and supplied the pass for the 4th so… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Don’t want any of the first four, bar maybe Maddison depending on the fee. We have enough English grit and PL experience in the squad. Let’s go for better value abroad, like we have done with Bruno, Botman and Isak. Tierney is a quality full-back and a clear upgrade. Doubt we’d get a better player for the money we’d pay for him. We need to also consider the home-grown quota for European competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepharite Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 We probably need another keeper if Dubs & Karius move on. I personally don't want Darlo back. We could also fulfill the home-grown quota by bringing Timmy or Frazer Forster back to the club as some have already pointed out earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: Tierney is a quality full-back and a clear upgrade. Doubt we’d get a better player for the money we’d pay for him. We need to also consider the home-grown quota for European competitions. Does Tierney qualify as HG? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Unbelievable said: Don’t want any of the first four, bar maybe Maddison depending on the fee. We have enough English grit and PL experience in the squad. Let’s go for better value abroad, like we have done with Bruno, Botman and Isak. Howe value PL experience high it seems, and we have a mix of it. Foreigns and PL transfers. But I dont like the idea of three/four PL players coming in. For all the experience Gallagher has, I think Thuram got much more to offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Manxst said: Does Tierney qualify as HG? Good point, he may not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Doesn't matter. We have loads of HG in England players anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Howe was asked last night about squad depth for Europe next season. He said something like needing tow equally strong starting 11s. My take on that was that he wasn’t talking about having 22 strong players for 2 different starting elevens but that he wanted enough players to be able to rotate from one game to the next so that each starting 11 was equally as strong. Some players may play both games but he could rotate in equally good players if some players needed a rest. If that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, LV said: My take on that was that he wasn’t talking about having 22 strong players for 2 different starting elevens but that he wanted enough players to be able to rotate from one game to the next so that each starting 11 was equally as strong. Some players may play both games but he could rotate in equally good players if some players needed a rest. If that makes sense. Aye makes sense, I reckon 5/6 signings would be ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Manxst said: Does Tierney qualify as HG? No. The homegrown quota is something we need to consider going forward though. We’ll be fine next season and for the next couple of seasons, but once the likes of Wilson, Trippier and Pope start nearing the end, we’d have a problem if most of our signings between now and then are non-homegrown. edit: as an aside, I was looking up the rules on this, and discovered Dier doesn’t count as homegrown for Spurs, even though he plays for England, which is a bit mad. Edited May 19, 2023 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: We aren’t getting 15 million for Murphy You think more? Agreed. No chance he's going anywhere though, I don't think. I'm sympathetic to the idea there might be one or two surprise departures though to maximise value. I've said before, I wouldn't be stunned to see Miggy go. Or maybe Schar? Would be a bit gutting though and I'm far from convinced it'll happen. Edited May 19, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 3 hours ago, The College Dropout said: We need two CMs minimum. This seems fanciful. To me we need two cm’s exactly. One that can sit at the base. One who is creative and can score goals and ideally press. Don’t know where you would fit another player in without getting rid of someone and the who are you going to get rid of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I think Gallagher would actually be fantastic under Howe’s coaching and ethos, but the question for me is he the profile of midfielder that the squad actually needs. I’m not convinced. The priority for me is someone who can compete with / an upgrade on Longstaff. I’d also like us to be looking for an experienced striker at European level, who wouldn’t mind being a rotation option across all competitions with Wilson and Isak. Easier said than done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Get Zo-bo-sly and Kone/Thuram. Not pure #6 players but I don’t care. Athletic. Edited May 19, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rafalove said: This seems fanciful. To me we need two cm’s exactly. One that can sit at the base. One who is creative and can score goals and ideally press. Don’t know where you would fit another player in without getting rid of someone and the who are you going to get rid of? 2 as a minimum. Id bring in a promising teenager if possible as well. Or if we have Maddison that’s ok, he can play at 8 if really needed. We need someone as emergency backup. Arsenal have Elneny. Liverpool had that Bajetcic kid or the Juve loanee and they both struggled with Europe when injuries came. We have nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Man U have 5 for 2 positions in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Not an ITK at all but my Arsenal supporting friend who is usually right about all matters Arse says Tierney to us is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 A lot of smoke. If true then hopefully he won’t be spending too much time on the treatment table. I would be positively surprised if he doesn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 We have Bruno, Longstaff, Joelinton, Willock, Anderson, plus another two midfielders would be seven for three. Keep in mind we have other positions to strengthen aswell, and if we want to bring in real quality we have to bring in a new lb, cb, cf, and maybe a rw or someone who can play accross the front three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Whatever we have and whoever we count we need to strengthen our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Rafalove said: We have Bruno, Longstaff, Joelinton, Willock, Anderson, plus another two midfielders would be seven for three. Keep in mind we have other positions to strengthen aswell, and if we want to bring in real quality we have to bring in a new lb, cb, cf, and maybe a rw or someone who can play accross the front three. Anderson needs to go out on loan, man. The 7th man needs to be (a) ideally someone that can play elsewhere (b) an old-timer happy with reduced minutes (c) a pup happy with reduced minutes or (d) a player on relatively low wages or someone on loan that is happy to be emergency back-up. Not every player needs to come in straight into the first team. If we get a CF they will be along the same profile as a 3rd CM. Isak & Wilson will be our main men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 If Anderson was going out on loan, it would have happened this season. Besides he’s just starting to get minutes and we might need a homegrown player. Another pre-season with Eddie working on his positioning should be good for him to improve further. Like I say once we’ve brought in two cm’s we have other positions to focus on. Not to mention I think we’ll see greater outlay on development players this year, what with us being linked with the likes of Rigg and Minteh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Midfielders depends on where Joelinton ends up, this season he’s been counted twice - LW and in midfield If the plan is for him to mainly play at LW it’s 3 CMs needed, one probably for development, as there’s only 3 at the club If he’s viewed as a CM then it depends on Howes view of Gordon and ASM as options for LW whether a LW is needed. Really don’t want to see Isak shunted out wide next season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Smal said: only change I’d have made a bit earlier was ASM for Isak as I thought the latter was blowing a bit and his defensive work was understandably suffering. As it were he stayed on and supplied the pass for the 4th so… This was the latest sign to me of how little Eddie trusts ASM. 2-1 up, tired legs everywhere, literally no options to improve the midfield, their possession starting to move higher up the pitch, and counter attacking opportunities that were screaming for Saint Maximin. But he persists with what we have until the game is won. I'm pretty certain he'll be sold this summer if anyone will pay a figure close to whatever our valuation is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 If you look at the first team, the obvious areas to upgrade are Burn, Longstaff and Almiron. Then on top of that we, could do with a bit more depth so we can rotate Schar and the lads in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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