WilliamPS Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Edwards list might make sense if it was just Howe, who I think leans more toward PL experience - but not really believable given there will be a transfer committee. Also saying they want value but will only shop in UK, the most expensive market? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nine said: There are good deals to be had from relegated teams every season, the ‘don’t want relegated players’ thing is such a lazy take.. so many examples of successful transfers coming from teams that went down. Liverpool signed Robertson, Wijnaldum and Henderson form poor teams and they were all crucial players for both their League and Champions League achievements. Teams mismanage and waste quality players all the time. Taking full advantage of that is a key strategy in building up a quality squad of players to compete. I think the three teams that went down this season have a lot of very good players between them. A ridiculous number of them actually. Edited June 8, 2023 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, TRon said: Levy is a lot of things, but he's never struck me as the over-paying type. I can see him doing something like that to try and appease the fans. No Europe, no Kane, a manager who could go either way. If he had 4 years left he's 100% a £50m bracket player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Liverpool signed Robertson, Wijnaldum and Henderson form poor teams and they were all crucial players for both their League and Champions League achievements. Teams mismanage and waste quality players all the time. Taking full advantage of that is a key strategy in building up a quality squad of players to compete. I think the three teams that went down this season have a lot of very good players between them. A ridiculous number of them actually. Agree with all of that. It's just pure snobbery to turn your nose up at a player purely because he was part of a relegated side. Daft in fact. Some very good players fail at certain clubs for no apparent reason. Edited June 8, 2023 by Dr.Spaceman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 51 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Leicester want over 50 million for Maddison according to Percy from the telegraph, he’s usually spot on with their news. https://twitter.com/TheSpursExpress/status/1666751216427102209?s=20 I read somewhere that we were looking at either Maddison or Szoboszlai, and it would ultimately come down to what Leicester were asking for Maddison. Article said we wouldn't mind paying more for Szoboszlai as he was 4 years younger and his wages would be less than Maddison's. With Maddison's fee looking like it won't be much less, I think that likely means we move on from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Maddison would pick Spurs over us if it came down to it imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: I can see him doing something like that to try and appease the fans. No Europe, no Kane, a manager who could go either way. If he had 4 years left he's 100% a £50m bracket player. It's just Leicester being arseholes, probably still miffed at going down with a bunch of superstars on their books. They are trying to get the best possible fee for Maddison but they aren't getting £50m from anyone, not with a year left on his contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 The stats radar things for Maddison and Szoboslai are basically identical, seem very similar players. Albeit one is in good form and the other just got relegated with a whimper. Can see why they'd both be on our list for the same role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: I read somewhere that we were looking at either Maddison or Szoboszlai, and it would ultimately come down to what Leicester were asking for Maddison. Article said we wouldn't mind paying more for Szoboszlai as he was 4 years younger and his wages would be less than Maddison's. With Maddison's fee looking like it won't be much less, I think that likely means we move on from him. Think id prefer Szoboszlai tbh, from what I’ve seen he seems to fit into our style more than Maddison. Edited June 8, 2023 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: Edwards list might make sense if it was just Howe, who I think leans more toward PL experience - but not really believable given there will be a transfer committee. Also saying they want value but will only shop in UK, the most expensive market? Exactly. I'm sure we'd take Maddison at the right price, but at the wrong price, Szoboszlai just starts looking better and better value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, McCormick said: Maddison would pick Spurs over us if it came down to it imo. That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Think is prefer Szoboszlai tbh, from what I’ve seen he seems to fit into our style more than Maddison. I agree. I think he's more dynamic, while still providing the technical ability and quality end product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: Exactly. I'm sure we'd take Maddison at the right price, but at the wrong price, Szoboszlai just starts looking better and better value. Yeah. Unfortunately though I don’t see us paying 60m for DS and I don’t see Leipzig budging on wanting the full release clause. I suspect either deal will take weeks/months of brinkmanship before it’s concluded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. I think there are far too many factors involved to draw just that one on its own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. It might just be his personality. Maddison might be the Bright Lights Big City type, maybe he really wants to be in London. Which means he's the wrong player for us anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. There'll always be some players that are like this. Don't think it's an indication of Spurs being thought of higher still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) We could probably finish in the top 4 for about 5 years and some people would prefer to sign for the big 6 Bollocks to them. Edited June 8, 2023 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, McCormick said: Maddison would pick Spurs over us if it came down to it imo. If that is correct, then we would NOT want him here anyway. Any quality player, after being told that WE want him, that picks any English club (apart from Man City) over us is quite simply not worth bothering with. We are the Premier League "hot ticket" now (and for the forseeable future) and anyone who cannot see that is an idiot and therefore we do not want them. SIMPLE but true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. I think there are far too many factors involved to draw just that one on its own You're not going Agbonlahor on us here, are you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Yeah. Unfortunately though I don’t see us paying 60m for DS and I don’t see Leipzig budging on wanting the full release clause. I suspect either deal will take weeks/months of brinkmanship before it’s concluded. I think we'll pay it if he's as good as we think he is. Why wouldn't we? We aren't at the stage yet where we can buy the players the current elite clubs are in for such as Rice or Mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Good player gets linked with us "he's amazing great stuff I'm following him on social media" Nothing happens because the season is running and the window hasn't opened "getting a bit worried now if he doesn't come" Player gets linked elsewhere "worra cunt I never liked him anyway he's getting bloke form social media, In fact I'm giving him abuse" All the time, the player and the clubs haven't said a word, the whole situation is just set up by newspaper hacks and rumour merchants to get clicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. Oh I agree but it’s probably a biased opinion. I feel we’re a season or two away (providing we finish in the top 5 and they don’t) from competing head-to-head with them on transfer targets. London, possibly the best stadium in the world, a bigger global fanbase (Spurs have over 20m followers on instagram vs. our <2m) and the fact that they’re still considered a “big 6” side just experiencing a wobble will mean many short-sighted footballers will still see them as a more attraction proposition, currently. We need to establish ourselves as not just a moneybags team that’s overachieved for a season in order to really upset the apple cart. A good showing in the CL and a top 5 finish this season will go a long way to achieving that imo. Edited June 8, 2023 by McCormick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Hope we go for Szbozo over Maddison. If Maddison does go to Spurs it’ll say a lot about what he wants out of his football career though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: You're not going Agbonlahor on us here, are you? No, but obviously London is a factor. Another factor could just as easily be Maddison being a divy though, the possibilities are endless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, Yorkie said: That's really depressing if so, and I'd say that even if I was a neutral. Spurs are a hair away from being a complete basket case, and if Postecoglou goes wrong then they absolutely are that. Meanwhile we're in the CL; a settled club on an upward trajectory. Someone like him choosing Spurs over us suggests the Big 6 brand is a long way from being dismantled. Sometimes it’s simply down to personal preference. Maybe Maddison and his family just want to settle in London? He will also be on higher wages there I’d expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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