The Prophet Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Nobody is found innocent though right? it’s guilty or not guilty. Not quite the same thing There's a presumption of innocence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 (edited) 30 minutes ago, The Prophet said: There's a presumption of innocence. Not with rape. Basically you are guilty or got away with it in most people's eyes, because why would anyone lie about it etc. But on flip side so many people do get away with it because multiple different reasons. Including the CPS backlog. But no way it's a joined up effort by police for him to see out his contract FFS. Hate talking about it as you end up either sounding like you are sticking up for rapist's or not giving the person a fair trial and feeding into the above. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-37021841 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/duke-lacrosse-rape-falsely-accused-crystal-mangum Comes to mind. So maybe just see how it ends after it's been to court. But then have articles like this saying you shouldn't really say that either. https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/russell-brand-sexual-assault-allegations-opinion Edited July 4, 2025 by Slim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 5 minutes ago, Slim said: Not with rape. Basically you are guilty or got away with it in most people's eyes, because why would anyone lie about it etc. But on flip side so many people do get away with it because multiple different reasons. Including the CPS backlog. But no way it's a joined up effort by police for him to see out his contract FFS. Hate talking about it as you end up either sounding like you are sticking up for rapist's or not giving the person a fair trial and feeding into the above. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-37021841 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/duke-lacrosse-rape-falsely-accused-crystal-mangum Comes to mind. So maybe just see how it ends after it's been to court. But then have articles like this saying you shouldn't really say that either. https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/russell-brand-sexual-assault-allegations-opinion I get what you mean, but legally there's a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Sure if a rape charge becomes public the reputational damage could be significant. But it's an incredibly difficult to crime to prosecute. One person's word v another's is rarely enough to hit the beyond all reasonable doubt threshold. It's an absolute minefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 Maybe Arteta didn't know. Maybe he's not on Twitter or Reddit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 Trying to find a reason for the timing that's not dodgy as fuck - could it be with his contract expiring they were worried he'd leave the country to join another club and had to charge to prevent that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 Clearly Prime Minister, former head of the CPS, and known Arsenal fan, Keir Starmer forces the CPS to hold back on charging him until Partey's contract expired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 1 hour ago, BlueStar said: Maybe Arteta didn't know. Maybe he's not on Twitter or Reddit And couldn't hear the away fans singing "She said no Thomas" and "Partey is a rapist" every week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 2 hours ago, BlueStar said: Maybe Arteta didn't know. Maybe he's not on Twitter or Reddit Im not on them either and I knew about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 6 hours ago, SteV said: Guaranteed they’ll just hide behind ‘can’t comment whilst the matter is ongoing’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 11 minutes ago, SteV said: Cowards. How convenient for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted July 4, 2025 Share Posted July 4, 2025 12 minutes ago, SteV said: 😂 aye. The old ‘Sunderland’ defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 Arsenal couldn't suspend him, he wasn't found guilty of any crimess yet! Meanwhile... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 5, 2025 Share Posted July 5, 2025 On 04/07/2025 at 14:57, RodneyCisse said: It’s awful, and why on earth has it taken so long to process? Because much though we like to think we are a fair minded nation, we are still as bent as most others. Just we are more polite and proper about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 (edited) Came across a list of British transfer records/milestones through the decades. Highlights for me were: Sunderland breaking the £500 barrier in 1902 and splashing the cash on Alf Common. They were rewarded for their investment as Alf also broke the £1,000 barrier when transferred to Middlesbrough three years later. in 1922, Syd Puddefoot (I mean, c’mon…, you can practically smell the Maccasser-oiled hair) went from West Ham to Falkirk to be the first player to cost £5,500. There was evidently money to be had from Scottish football and perhaps a more equal footing between the leagues. Jump forward to 1957 and John Charles is off to Juventus, from Leeds United, for the princely sum of £65,000 (quite a jump in record fee as well). Dennis Law followed suit in 1961 going to Torino for £110,000, from Manchester City. The great Martin Peters (they were all great to be fair) hopped across London (West Ham to Spurs) in 1979. Spurs breaking the £200,000 barrier to get their man. King Kevin was the first man worth half a million, when he went to SV Hamburg from Liverpool in 1977. Trevor Francis cost more than double by 1979, Forest paying £1,180,000 to Birmingham for his services. Other North East notables: Bryan Robson £1.5m in 1981 (West Brom to Man Utd); Chris Waddle £4.25m in 1989 (Spurs to Marseille); and, of course, Alan Shearer £15m in 1996 (Blackburn Rovers to Newcastle United). http://www.midfielddynamo.com/transfers/milestones_british.htm Edited July 6, 2025 by Coffee_Johnny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 Not sure how long this offer is available for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Prophet Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 Just now, The Prophet said: I foresee Sunderland V Palace, Wolves V Burnley, Fulham V Bournemouth etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 Jonathan Liew asking the right sort of questions about Arsenal and Rapey Thomas: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jul/07/arsenal-football-culture-thomas-partey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 "Just who is going to cover the broadcasters losses!?!? I say this as a 'Sky Sports 4D 8K IMAX Mutli Room Superior VIP' subscriber for all 4 of my homes, Labour must increase the price for those on the most basic Sky package" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 50 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Mixed feelings about that. Any improvement to access is a good thing, but making one round of fixtures free to air is no solution to the problem of 'rinsing fans of every last penny'. It's a deep-rooted institutional issue which cuts across all aspects of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Mixed feelings about that. Any improvement to access is a good thing, but making one round of fixtures free to air is no solution to the problem of 'rinsing fans of every last penny'. It's a deep-rooted institutional issue which cuts across all aspects of the game. This is classic politicking, basically doing your absolute best to make it look like your doing something when actually doing very little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joeyt Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 Pleased this has been confirmed Heard a few rumours about this previously but from unreliable sauces Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 8, 2025 Share Posted July 8, 2025 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Pleased this has been confirmed Heard a few rumours about this previously but from unreliable sauces Should add a bit of variety to their set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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