Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: Martinez I agree but who is the other? Because I'm hoping you don't mention Varane, he's been on the bench for weeks. So he's hardly injured. It's either a falling out or Ten Hag doesn't fancy him Whatever the reason, Varane isn't playing. It's nothing to do with Ten Hag not fancying him. I've said numerous times before that we've backed Ten Hag with all decisions so far, but the Varane one is worrying. He has always seemed like a model professional, so it's the first player/manager dispute where the manager might not be backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: Whatever the reason, Varane isn't playing. It's nothing to do with Ten Hag not fancying him. I've said numerous times before that we've backed Ten Hag with all decisions so far, but the Varane one is worrying. He has always seemed like a model professional, so it's the first player/manager dispute where the manager might not be backed. The ultimate reason is irrelevant, you claimed he was injured If there is a falling out then that is on the manager and if he prefers to play a Left Back at Centre Back instead then he should get criticised for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: The ultimate reason is irrelevant, you claimed he was injured Well he was. We still don't know if there is a dispute. It could simply be that Varane was injured and Ten Hag thought Evans done well enough to keep his place. I doubt it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Froggy said: Well he was. We still don't know if there is a dispute. It could simply be that Varane was injured and Ten Hag thought Evans done well enough to keep his place. I doubt it though. He was asked that one time and he said tactical, not sure why he'd say that it he was injured My point is you can't say he's missing 2 Centre Backs because he chooses not to play one of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: He was asked that one time and he said tactical, not sure why he'd say that it he was injured My point is you can't say he's missing 2 Centre Backs because he chooses not to play one of them I didn't say that though. I was asked why I think some performances have been atrocious. Varane and Martinez not being in the team is a huge reason, Ten Hag's fault or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Villa making the most of what we (currently) don't have - five first-XI-level players coming off the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Topfiveometer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Can anyone stop Villa winning the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: Can anyone stop Villa winning the league? Man U won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: Can anyone stop Villa winning the league? Well we've done our bit by beating them 5-1. Over to everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Can anyone stop Villa winning the league? The red shirts will be calling an emergency meeting with the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Scoot said: Well we've done our bit by beating them 5-1. Over to everyone else. They had a lot of injuries to be fair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Froggy said: They had a lot of injuries to be fair Don't get me started on injuries please... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, Scoot said: Don't get me started on injuries please... Same mate. Season is a write off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Froggy said: Same mate. Season is a write off. Bournemouth had a longer injury list than you today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Bournemouth had a longer injury list than you today. Are we going to start comparing lists? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Think 5th/6th best we can hope for this season now. Man City will pickup, Villa have momentum and Liverpool/Arsenal will be in top 4. Still we are building and fair play to villa, some quality results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) Man U bench today: Bayindir (gk) Hojlund Rashford Varane Pellestri Wan-Bissaka van de Beek Evans Mainoo Every single one of those outfield subs has seem meaningful pitch time for Man U in their career other than Mainoo who's just broken through (but is highly rated) and van de Beek who's massively out of favour, but still cost £25m or something and is a senior player. Still, there's tons of experience on there and players who've played in international and European finals ready to come on. Compare that to two keepers, Paul Dummett, Matt Ritchie, Emil Krafth and four lads with 10 minutes PL experience between them Aye Man U have got it really tough. Edited December 9, 2023 by Pilko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 5th will be a huge scrap between three or four sides, does it include Champions league place ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, mighty__mag said: 5th will be a huge scrap between three or four sides, does it include Champions league place ? Depends how well English sides do in Europe. Won’t be known til the end of the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pilko said: Man U bench today: Bayindir (gk) Hojlund Rashford Varane Pellestri Wan-Bissaka van de Beek Evans Mainoo Every single one of those outfield subs has seem meaningful pitch time for Man U in their career other than Mainoo who's just broken through and van de Beek who's massively out of favour. Still, there's tons of experience on there and players who've played in international and European finals ready to come on. Compare that to two keepers, Paul Dummett, Matt Ritchie, Emil Krafth and four lads with 10 minutes PL experience between them Aye Man U have got it really tough. Yep it's a load of nonsense that Man United have any sort of injury crisis , Hojlund and Wan-Bissaka alone from that bench cost about £100 million didn't they . For us to be 7th with literally a bench full of kids every week is unbelievable really, Villa will be hard to catch but Man United dont worry me at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Pilko said: Man U bench today: Bayindir (gk) Hojlund Rashford Varane Pellestri Wan-Bissaka van de Beek Evans Mainoo Every single one of those outfield subs has seem meaningful pitch time for Man U in their career other than Mainoo who's just broken through (but is highly rated) and van de Beek who's massively out of favour, but still cost £25m or something and is a senior player. Still, there's tons of experience on there and players who've played in international and European finals ready to come on. Compare that to two keepers, Paul Dummett, Matt Ritchie, Emil Krafth and four lads with 10 minutes PL experience between them Aye Man U have got it really tough. There’s no point trying to reason, it’s been years of this pointless wumming on here when it comes to discussing Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Cf said: Part of me wondered if he'd sacrifice the Milan game. We're dependant on PSG anyway. Booby prize tournament would add even more congestion. In some ways bottom of the group gives us a shot at the league in the second half of the season. He won't, and nor should he. But it's a conversation that might have happened. I would kill (…ish) to win that booby prize tournament! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Up until now Villa are essentially us this time last season, disrupting the top four. After 16 they have 35 points and we had 33. They've been going strong for circa 40 games under Emery so they're definetly strong candidates for a CL spot (even more so it end up being a top five), but as with us it'll be about how they overcome a dip in form and teams beginning to suss them out. Our lull came around the cup final and it took Howe a little while to work it out and cut our cloth accordingly. In previous gigs, Emery has tended to be a bit rigid and stubborn and his teams have finished poorly, but there's every chance he's learnt and grown from that. You also have to factor in he's often been one to prioritise cup competitions at the expense of the league, which he's unlikely to do in this position. Much like ourselves this year they haven't looked quite as convincing on the road, getting battered at SJP and Anfield, along with a fortunate win at Spurs, but their excellent home form has negated that. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out, still an awful long way to go, but they've put themselves in a superb position with some very winnable home games coming up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Im turning to the idea that finishing 3rd in the CL group would be the best thing for us in the medium term. Gives us another avenue for potential CL qualification next year. youd think that ManU will spend in Jan and improve, City, Liverpool and Arsenal are pretty much certs for top 4 and Villa can afford a drop off and still be in a strong position. even with 5th potentially being enough id like an alternative option to aim for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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