TBG Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Edited April 30, 2023 by TBG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Our best player in the first half. Had that RB on toast and the only one who created owt. I'm sure he would have grabbed himself a goal had he stayed on. Some really promising signs imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rafalove said: I have faith he’ll come good. Maybe Eddie will need a pre-season to work his magic in him but he’ll get there. I've backed him all the way and still do, but he was off it today and rightly replaced at half time. It doesn't mean he's a bad player, but he wasn't on it today. It's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 He was decent in the first half, should have scored the sitter though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Honestly if that was Isak in the first half people would have been claiming he terrorised the Southampton defence. He played really well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Well there is always a cost with Eddies black magic. He has transformed Murphy. It just came at the cost of turning Gordon into Murphy. Incredibly unlucky not to get two cracking goals today. It will come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Got to have a whipping boy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Thought he played decent in the first half. Seems to be getting all the stick for how poor we played collectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: How people can turn that 45 into a negative is mind boggling like It's so pathetic man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 He was our best player in the first half. Great pressing, some good passes. Made good runs, supported burn well. Should have put that one away but to be fair it’s a few inches away from being in the bottom corner. People need to chill out. He’s had what 3 starts for us now? I’m sure if he stays on and Murphy goes off, he gets an assist or goal and we aren’t having this conversation. It came down to a decision out of respect for Murphys recent form. We have basically secured a CL spot with a 3-1 comeback win at home…and people want to moan about a young player who has had 3 starts and a few cameos from the bench. ENJOY. I guess when we have no problems, we focus on small things. Such is life. A season or two ago it was staying in the prem. Now it’s the price we paid for a player who has barely had a chance. don’t you guys remember Joelinton? Almiron? You’d think we would learn our lessons and not get on a young players back after such a small sample size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viana Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 The optics of today are bad for him. He missed a one on one, at times looked easy to shut down, and we went in a goal down with him on the field. This is probably the first transfer where I’m thinking “trust Howe and Ashworth”. I’m certainly seeing glimmers of a player; he’s set up chances, made good runs, connected passes well, but glimmers is the bare minimum I’d expect. All that said, I think he’s in the same boat as Elliot Anderson and even Miggy when he joined. Both are trying hard to make an impact but they’re forcing it a bit. I think when that first goal comes - and it will - we will start to see a more relaxed and accurate representation of where they’re at. It’s not that he’s destined to succeed (the club will continue to sign duffers even with new owners) but at least we’ll have a better idea of judging once that burden is lifted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Shouldn't be starting. Use the rest of the season to observe and get up to speed with Total-Howe-ball and then next season be used in rotation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I have no idea how anyone can say he was the best player, like. All 3 of the best opportunities to either score or assist fell to him and he fluffed all of them. He was involved rather than good. He got the best of Lyanco a couple of times and then Lycano had the measure of him. I think there's probably a good reason why Howe took him off and not Murphy, yer kna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 People calling him poor are wrong, he was one of if not the brightest spark for most of the 1st half, the reason he got subbbed was that he just wasnt playing the patterns at all. You could see players getting frustrated with him for making his own decision instead of what is usually done by the team in certain positions, he'll get there and will be an asset once he does! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) In his career to date what he has lacked has been end product. He's always looked lively. It's hardly a shock that that's exactly what he has lacked for us, end product. At this moment, we look a better team when he isn't on the pitch. But it'll come. Eddie will work with him and improve that part of his game, but we probably won't see the benefit of that this season. Edited April 30, 2023 by Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyc35i Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 As I said earlier in the first half, I thought he played well and could have easily had an assist or a goal to his name. He was actually our only threat in the first half. My opinion hasn’t changed since when we were first linked with him. He’s a solid addition to the team with potential to be a good Premier League player for many years. But he doesn’t look to have the qualities to become an elite player (I hope I’m proven wrong with a pre season under Eddie and the team). He’s also not helped by the transfer fee, but that’s an English league issue where it takes more money to buy decent players because most top flight clubs are financially secure and don’t need to sell. I mean the difference in quality from Isak compared to Gordon for what a £15m ish difference in price tag is quite stark - that’s not meant to be a dig at Gordon in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) Feel a bit sorry for him. He clearly needs a run in the team to build his confidence, and get to know the play and the team properly. But he's been getting odd minutes off the bench, and starting today, he missed a couple, but then we went a goal down, and he was taken off. Probably feels a bit of a scapegoat, but the team didn't play well first half, and the goal came from a Bruno error. Need him to score or us to be winning/playing well when he starts, so he can get that longer pitch time, with less pressure (on him). Edited April 30, 2023 by TK-421 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Honestly if that was Isak in the first half people would have been claiming he terrorised the Southampton defence. He played really well I think really well is a bit over the top. He was very involved, willing, worked hard, etc. However, he was quite predictable IMO and figured out by the defenders pretty quickly. If that chance goes in it's a different story of course, but it didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Look forward to seeing those writing Gordon off already eating their words after he’s had a pre-season under Howe. Plenty of promising signs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Haven’t seen him play today, sounds like there were lots of positives among the negatives. Got no concerns whatsoever about Eddie getting the best out of him. Think he’ll score a lot of goals for us by running onto balls over the top / through balls, once he gains more confidence and better decision making with his finishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Just now, M1tche said: People calling him poor are wrong, he was one of if not the brightest spark for most of the 1st half, the reason he got subbbed was that he just wasnt playing the patterns at all. You could see players getting frustrated with him for making his own decision instead of what is usually done by the team in certain positions, he'll get there and will be an asset once he does! Poor is subjective and I'd say he certainly had poor moments: the shot from the low success position wide left and then just trying the same switch to the left and sprint on the defenders. Your observation about him not playing the system sounds like it is really on the money and is what I was getting at with how we needed him subbed off to get back into the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 I wasn't overly keen on the signing but I'm not judging him until next season, after he's had a full pre season with Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) GET RID OF HIM, HE STINKS OF TOFFEE Edited April 30, 2023 by OCK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said: I think really well is a bit over the top. He was very involved, willing, worked hard, etc. However, he was quite predictable IMO and figured out by the defenders pretty quickly. If that chance goes in it's a different story of course, but it didn't. Margins, it’ll come. Think they will bulk him up a bit over the summer too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 He is like a foreigner who needs time to adapt to PL. No reason to write him off, but a good training summer I think will do him good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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