Abacus Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 13 minutes ago, Sima said: Is this being reported anywhere else outside of the Mail? Haven't seen it myself (yet), just people re-reporting the Mail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, duo said: I was just thinking that Yeah to be fair I would still prefer to win the Premier League first lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Ornstein throwing some cold water on the news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Ornstein throwing some cold water on the news Gone from hard as The Shard, to hard as lard in an afternoon. Disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t00nt00n313 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Yeah even with the news today I wasn't even excited to be honest, I can't see them adopting a luxury tax. That said I'm somewhat more optimistic on them maybe dropping the related sponsorship rules which could be just as good for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 25 minutes ago, ikri said: random taxi companies from Riyadh Bruno’s dad could be the face of the company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It’s not just going to come crashing down immediately but clearly it’s all going to fall apart. You can’t have multiple clubs every few months being fucked for just trying to compete above the relegation spots. We’ll never get completely free rein but we’ll be able to get where we need to within a few years and once we’re there we’ll have the spending power to consolidate ourselves as a top club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, t00nt00n313 said: Yeah even with the news today I wasn't even excited to be honest, I can't see them adopting a luxury tax. That said I'm somewhat more optimistic on them maybe dropping the related sponsorship rules which could be just as good for us. It will come, even if today is just the start of the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 "Clubs who don't like PSR and/or are in a precarious position with it" could be quite a few. Us & Man City, possibly Villa in the first category. Obviously Everton & Forest in the second. Chelsea are quite possibly cutting it fine. And that's just the clubs we know about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, gbandit said: It’s not just going to come crashing down immediately but clearly it’s all going to fall apart. You can’t have multiple clubs every few months being fucked for just trying to compete above the relegation spots. We’ll never get completely free rein but we’ll be able to get where we need to within a few years and once we’re there we’ll have the spending power to consolidate ourselves as a top club Totally agree. Even relaxing the rules on how much can be invested via sponsorship should be enough to allow us to essentially buy the players we want in order to challenge the top teams. Let's not forget that they too would be able to spend as much as they wanted, it's not like they're only investing pennies themselves either. If Arsenal's owners wanted to lash out £400m in a single window on 6 players then there would be nothing stopping them from doing so, the relaxation of the rules would apply to everyone. Bet players and their agents are rubbing their hands at the news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, midds said: Totally agree. Even relaxing the rules on how much can be invested via sponsorship should be enough to allow us to essentially buy the players we want in order to challenge the top teams. Let's not forget that they too would be able to spend as much as they wanted, it's not like they're only investing pennies themselves either. If Arsenal's owners wanted to lash out £400m in a single window on 6 players then there would be nothing stopping them from doing so, the relaxation of the rules would apply to everyone. Bet players and their agents are rubbing their hands at the news Not just rubbing their hands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Enjoyed how there's a thread on RTG just below lamenting clubs not living within their means titled 'SAFC losing 100’s of 1000’s every week?' Edited April 4 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 All us arseholes who played Madden or The Show (or managed a MLS team in FM) going to be fucking wizards with this luxery tax bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 What Ornstein says there is kind of wrong anyway because part of UEFA's model is effectively a luxury tax. The difference is they do also have the PSR-like max loss over three year thing, which I think is the worst part of the three UEFA pillars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 It would be interesting to see what our spending would actually be like if the reins were took off. Everyone assumes we'd be spending shitloads, but PIF as an investment firm might be quite enjoying the restrictions. That's just a devil's advocate argument tbh, I don't believe it for a second. The Saudis will want to take the fastest route possible to the top more likely. It would increase the club's value far more in the long run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezzle Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Decky said: Would they ban us? When they went for City their ban got reduced to a small fine by City's standards (£25m). 3 years later they win the Champions League. That wasn't uefas choice though. The process was past the deadline so cas refused the ban. Uefa still insist they would have banned them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Reading the Red clubs reactions to this might be the biggest schadenfreude of my life. Goosebumps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 THE BIG 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Decky said: Would they ban us? When they went for City their ban got reduced to a small fine by City's standards (£25m). 3 years later they win the Champions League. They did go after City, but CAS overturned the ban on a timebar. Edited April 4 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, timeEd32 said: What Ornstein says there is kind of wrong anyway because part of UEFA's model is effectively a luxury tax. The difference is they do also have the PSR-like max loss over three year thing, which I think is the worst part of the three UEFA pillars. What's the punishment? Also watch those rules change when certain clubs are impacted and a new incarnation of a super league raises its head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 59 minutes ago, Ben said: THE BIG 7 All 20 Premier League clubs ranked based on the estimated net worth of their owners. Club Estimated combined wealth of owners Newcastle $620 billion Man City $22 billion Chelsea $15.8 billion Arsenal $12.9 billion Aston Villa $11.9 billion Liverpool $9.8 billion Fulham $7.9 billion West Ham $7.3 billion Wolves $6.9 billion Tottenham $5.8 billion Crystal Palace $5.5 billion Man United $4.7 billion THE BIG 1 Soon, baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 minutes ago, GideonShandy said: All 20 Premier League clubs ranked based on the estimated net worth of their owners. Club Estimated combined wealth of owners Newcastle $620 billion Man City $22 billion Chelsea $15.8 billion Arsenal $12.9 billion Aston Villa $11.9 billion Liverpool $9.8 billion Fulham $7.9 billion West Ham $7.3 billion Wolves $6.9 billion Tottenham $5.8 billion Crystal Palace $5.5 billion Man United $4.7 billion THE BIG 1 Soon, baby. The Reubens are worth £24 billion in their own right!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68713522 Very interesting article here. Sorry if someone has put the link up already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Refuse to get carried away by this. I haven’t seen anything from PIF to suggest that they won’t behave responsibly. Their model is to have a sustainable club with healthy income. They might loosen the belts slightly in terms of transfer spend but I highly doubt you’ll see any massive shift in strategy. I’m fine with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Refuse to get carried away by this. I haven’t seen anything from PIF to suggest that they won’t behave responsibly. Their model is to have a sustainable club with healthy income. They might loosen the belts slightly in terms of transfer spend but I highly doubt you’ll see any massive shift in strategy. I’m fine with this. If you want to be the number 1 club in the world like the Chairman said, then they have to. It was a big statement to make on a documentary and reputation is big in Saudi. I can't see him coming out with that unless that is the strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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