Sibierski Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 He’s in the perfect team under Conte. Won’t be asked to do stuff he’s not capable of, and can do more of the box crashing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Sibierski said: He’s in the perfect team under Conte. Won’t be asked to do stuff he’s not capable of, and can do more of the box crashing. Fair point. He has some qualities that works really well in the right system. Another reason as to why we shouldn't just look at players getting shipped from certain clubs as rejects and dismiss any context. Edited October 9 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 4 hours ago, Erikse said: Mr. "not elite enough", "Man Utd reject" and "crap player" doing well in Italy so far. Always rated Mctominay since his performance against Villarreal in the Europa league final - an absolute driving force that day and decent technique too. Somehow labelled a clogger on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 5 hours ago, Erikse said: Mr. "not elite enough", "Man Utd reject" and "crap player" doing well in Italy so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 So is Lukaku tbf and I wouldn't want him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Menace said: So is Lukaku tbf and I wouldn't want him here. I think McTominay looks better for Scotland than what Lukaku does for Belgium. And to my understanding his spell at Roma wasn't terrible, but it wasn't exactly superb either. His best spell in Italy was years ago, and at that time he could have strengthened most top teams. Not trying to throw more jabs at Longstaff, but people here were saying that McTominay was equal to him. I suppose that this is what Man Utd does to your reputation.. Edited October 9 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 15 hours ago, Erikse said: I think McTominay looks better for Scotland than what Lukaku does for Belgium. And to my understanding his spell at Roma wasn't terrible, but it wasn't exactly superb either. His best spell in Italy was years ago, and at that time he could have strengthened most top teams. Not trying to throw more jabs at Longstaff, but people here were saying that McTominay was equal to him. I suppose that this is what Man Utd does to your reputation.. McTominay or (preferably) Gallagher would have improved us significantly. Almost as if Eddie and crew can spot a player better than we can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 It's crazy what a good game or two can do for your reputation. As if people learned nothing from Lingard's purple patch at West Ham. Worth noting there's players excelling or have excelled in Serie A despite being surplus to requirements in the Premier League years prior. Darmian, Young, Lukaku, Mkhitaryan, Sanchez etc. McTominay is a decent player, but extremely limited, and simply not good enough for teams like Newcastle aspiring to be at the top of the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Gallagher is not good enough either. He's an upgrade on Longstaff obviously, but that's what Tonali was signed for. I really didn't want us to sign Gallagher or McT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) He's only played a handful of games for Napoli so far, most of which off the bench I still think he'd have been a solid enough signing for us though - if a bit uninspiring. Gallagher on the other hand would have been an excellent signing. Edited October 10 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, Froggy said: It's crazy what a good game or two can do for your reputation. As if people learned nothing from Lingard's purple patch at West Ham. Worth noting there's players excelling or have excelled in Serie A despite being surplus to requirements in the Premier League years prior. Darmian, Young, Lukaku, Mkhitaryan, Sanchez etc. McTominay is a decent player, but extremely limited, and simply not good enough for teams like Newcastle aspiring to be at the top of the Premier League. You reckon Sancho isn't good enough for a club that wants to compete at the top in the Premier League either? Just curious. I see what you're doing though, basically saying that nomatter how well he does in Napoli, it doesn't matter for anything because it's not the Prem. You say that because you know very well that the performances might (and probably will) continue. Edited October 10 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 4 minutes ago, Erikse said: You reckon Sancho isn't good enough for a club that wants to compete at the top in the Premier League either? Just curious. I see what you're doing though, basically saying that nomatter how well he does in Napoli, it doesn't matter for anything because it's not the Prem. You say that because you know very well that the performances might (and probably will) continue. Sancho's issues aren't ability. He's more than good enough for any side. If you gave Sancho a lend of McTominay's mindset, you'd have an elite player. It was a good move for McTominay and I think he'll do well. He's just a decent player in an effective system though. The same way Victor Moses was. If he signed for Newcastle he'd be a slight upgrade on Longstaff but would be a prime candidate to be replaced within 12-18 months. A pointless signing for the likes of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Froggy said: Sancho's issues aren't ability. He's more than good enough for any side. If you gave Sancho a lend of McTominay's mindset, you'd have an elite player. It was a good move for McTominay and I think he'll do well. He's just a decent player in an effective system though. The same way Victor Moses was. If he signed for Newcastle he'd be a slight upgrade on Longstaff but would be a prime candidate to be replaced within 12-18 months. A pointless signing for the likes of Newcastle. You might be right. But I will say me (and seemingly others) who rates him now also rated him enough to not be against the signing back in 2023. So saying "crazy what a couple of games does to your reputation" makes no sense in this case. If you go back some pages you will find that not everyone thought he was bad, even at your club. So it's not based on a couple of games. Edited October 10 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 If we had McTominay we’d still have the problems of not being able to control possession, being vulnerable to pressing, and a lack of creativity against low blocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 I say this even as someone who is Scottish, McTominay is for the most part quite lazy during a game, the thought of wasting genuinely good football players like Bruno and Tonali grafting to get him the odd goal doesn't do much for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 If you took away McTominay's goals, how good a player is he? Is his technique good enough to control a midfield area where presumably he plays? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 12 minutes ago, TRon said: If you took away McTominay's goals, how good a player is he? Is his technique good enough to control a midfield area where presumably he plays? You could say the same for Barnes (though I know his role is different). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Must be an international break if this shit is coming up again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 23 minutes ago, mouldy_uk said: You could say the same for Barnes (though I know his role is different). Well that's the point, his role is different. A wide man is not going to be as influential as a CM. I think Barnes has a bit more to his game anyway, but I'm prepared to hear arguments for McTominay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 On 09/10/2024 at 11:27, Erikse said: Mr. "not elite enough", "Man Utd reject" and "crap player" doing well in Italy so far. Italian league isn't quite on par with the Premier league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Would you prefer McTominay and Antony or Longstaff and Miggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 16 minutes ago, duo said: Italian league isn't quite on par with the Premier league I still think just the fact that Napoli and Conte wanted to buy him for that price tells me something though. Not that he is a world beater, but probably better than quite a few players in our startin 11. Obviously we have a few players that are some levels above, but not that many imo. Not that any of this matters, we got Tonali (probably due to the situation he was in), and that seems to turn out well in the end. Edited October 10 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 38 minutes ago, TBG said: Would you prefer McTominay and Antony or Longstaff and Miggy Longstaff and Miggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now