NUFC Transfer Rumours

[SUPERTOON]

It is, but we do know it’s real and at some point we will have to sell. With the amount we have spent since the takeover we must be close to the point of not being able to spend much more.

[The Prophet]

10 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

It is, but we do know it’s real and at some point we will have to sell. With the amount we have spent since the takeover we must be close to the point of not being able to spend much more.

 

It does make you wonder if Barnes is a pre-emptive move.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

It does make you wonder if Barnes is a pre-emptive move.

I would think so, I can’t see the club spending the full budget on 2 players when we still have other positions more important to fill.

[ponsaelius]

Im pretty sure Targett would go if we did get another left back. £10-15 million for him plus whatever you can scrape together for the other rubbish could pay a large chunk of fee for somebody like Tierney etc.

[Gawalls]

28 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I would think so, I can’t see the club spending the full budget on 2 players when we still have other positions more important to fill.

Nor can I to be honest.

[kingxlnc]

What happened to Veiga he has a similar profile to Szobzolai so would like to see an attempt made to sign him 

[Manxst]

27 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

What happened to Veiga he has a similar profile to Szobzolai so would like to see an attempt made to sign him 

 

[mighty__mag]

3 hours ago, The Prophet said:

 

 

He'll change his mind when he comes to play the friendlies at St James

[BonesJones]

1 hour ago, mighty__mag said:

 

He'll change his mind when he comes to play the friendlies at St James

Be sweet if we've actually set this cup up with that type of thing in mind. Imagine there's a player at each team that we like.

[GideonShandy]

4 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

What would people prefer, LB or RW?

The thought of Almiron and Murphy as our first choice RW is depressing. I reckon I'd rather have a RW than LB.

Depressing? How was your mood when players like Clark, Shelvey, Hayden, Hendrick and Fraser were first choices?

[elbee909]

31 minutes ago, GideonShandy said:

Depressing? How was your mood when players like Clark, Shelvey, Hayden, Hendrick and Fraser were first choices?

 

Tbf Almiron did score 'only' 11 goals last season. Depressing.

[Alberto2005]

36 minutes ago, GideonShandy said:

Depressing? How was your mood when players like Clark, Shelvey, Hayden, Hendrick and Fraser were first choices?

Sorry aye let's sell Botman and get Lejuene back in ?

 

We're a CL team now, Almiron and Murphy aren't good enough if we want to stay up there.

[rebelrouser]

5 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

 

Tbf Almiron did score 'only' 11 goals last season. Depressing.

And one the year before that. i hope Miggy has a great year but his last one is a bit of an outlier. 

[elbee909]

Yep, he's got better. What better reward than to show him the door.

[Unbelievable]

6 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

And one the year before that. i hope Miggy has a great year but his last one is a bit of an outlier. 

All our players improved through better coaching and better tactics. Sell the lot I say.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Unbelievable

[Keegans Export]

The thing about the FFP/sell-to-buy line - I always come back to the same thought, what would our budget have been if we hadn't qualified for the CL?

 

If its Tonoli for £50m and Barnes for £35m and that £85m has cleared us out how much would we be spending if we'd finished 5th? Or lower? 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Alberto2005 said:

Sorry aye let's sell Botman and get Lejuene back in ?

 

We're a CL team now, Almiron and Murphy aren't good enough if we want to stay up there.

 

Murphy would be the one I'd sell. I'm sure Sheff Utd or Burnley would think £16-20m would be worthwhile. 

 

I know Almiron probably won't score 10+ goals again but you know what you get with him. I'm not convinced Murphy will have a season like last season again and that was without great numbers either. 

[jack j]

14 minutes ago, Keegans Export said:

The thing about the FFP/sell-to-buy line - I always come back to the same thought, what would our budget have been if we hadn't qualified for the CL?

 

If its Tonoli for £50m and Barnes for £35m and that £85m has cleared us out how much would we be spending if we'd finished 5th? Or lower? 

We'd have sold Bruno for 70 million

[OptimusSlime]

Genuinely shocked at how ruthless sone are on here regarding selling Almiron, Murphy, Maxi.  It’s very different to the conversations I have in real life with mates, colleagues, family.

 

Is this a case of people who’ve played football manager too much and just see our squad as names on a screen with set attributes and forget the human element?  
 

Are we as fans that disloyal (works both ways) to e.g. Almiron who scored double figures and just held an NUFC birthday party for his son?  To Murphy who has become a cult hero and is the perfect versatile squad player who let’s face it won’t be on big money?

 

Scott Sellars lost his place in the team to Ginola and was subsequently sold.  Ruel Fox lost his place to Gillespie and was subsequently sold.  Unless and until these players lose their spot to someone better - or someone offers a fee significantly above market value (which I guess is a point of debate) there is nothing to discuss for me.

[Guest]

Signing Barnes means we have 4 wingers better than Murphy. We also have Joelinton, Willock and Isak who can play on the left, meaning the likes of Gordon and Maxi can play on the right. 

[Fatwax]

I agree. It’s mind boggling how many people want to carve up a successful team that has bonded and achieved two massive things that literally have not been seen in almost a generation - a cup final and CL qualification.

 

But nah, ship them out to buy someone else. They’re not good enough.

 

As above… buy first and then move on. This is a long term project.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Fatwax

[Guest]

In one thread you've got people questioning why Barnes will be the last incoming without sales, in the next one we have people advocating keeping the likes of Murphy who'll be a fringe player, when we already have Gillespie, Dummett, Ritchie. We're going to have to trim from somewhere. 

[Nucasol]

9 minutes ago, Fatwax said:

I agree. It’s mind boggling how many people want to carve up a successful team that has bonded and achieved two massive things that literally have not been seen in almost a generation - a cup final and CL qualification.

 

But nah, ship them out to buy someone else. They’re not good enough.

 

As above… buy first and then move on. This is a long term project.

 

 

 

Which is fine in principle but we’re now in a world where a strange set of financial handcuffs can create the need for fire sales or risk European lockout which, in a circular reference, probably means letting your best players leave for potential trigger clauses. Unlike all the other cunts any deal we do with a Saudi club will be drilled into amidst huge gnashing of teeth and caterwauling.

[Coffee_Johnny]

2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

In one thread you've got people questioning why Barnes will be the last incoming without sales, in the next one we have people advocating keeping the likes of Murphy who'll be a fringe player, when we already have Gillespie, Dummett, Ritchie. We're going to have to trim from somewhere. 

It’s a tricky one. We do have to trim, but think it’ll be done in a gradual and respectful way.
As obsessed as Eddie (funny, but I still pause/am not sure what name to use for him) is regarding results, he is very human and a large part of his excellent leadership is relationship based. If someone is giving their all, is fully engaged and a positive influence on the squad, as long as he feels they can contribute (and aren’t wasting their young years) then it would be necessity rather than ruthless pursuit of potentially better options which will determine who goes when. 

[Matt1892]

This was from Howe in May:

 

"Dan [Ashworth, director of football] has made the point to me about trading being an important part of our future. That does not necessarily mean selling your best players, but trading with FFP rules can be a good thing for your finances," he continued.