The Prophet Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: The worst thing is, our first fixtures are horrific. It’s gonna give fans the perfect excuse to blame the lack of incoming players. I’d be confident that 2 incoming players covering in defence will see us improve. Happened last season after a slow start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The worst thing is, our first fixtures are horrific. It’s gonna give fans the perfect excuse to blame the lack of incoming players. I’d be confident that 2 incoming players covering in defence will see us improve. I prefer getting games like that out the way and going by our defence last season it’s difficult to just judge them on the first few pre-season friendlies. There’s no doubt we need more strength at left/right-back and possibly centrally, but I’m more pleased that we have better attacking options this time around. Edited August 2, 2023 by Geordie Boyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The worst thing is, our first fixtures are horrific. It’s gonna give fans the perfect excuse to blame the lack of incoming players. I’d be confident that 2 incoming players covering in defence will see us improve. That’ll say more about those fans than it does about the team/ management / club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shearergol said: The worst thing is, our first fixtures are horrific. It’s gonna give fans the perfect excuse to blame the lack of incoming players. I’d be confident that 2 incoming players covering in defence will see us improve. Surely that is the reason to sign better players though, to give us a better chance of beating the more difficult teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Matt1892 said: Surely that is the reason to sign better players though, to give us a better chance of beating the more difficult teams. Generally how it works anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) People make signing players sound so easy. ’Just go and get better players’ This isn’t our philosophy or model. It’s slow and steady, with the right kind of players with the right mentality. That takes time and a lot of scouting as well as probably months of courting the players representatives. And all this within the parameters of FFP too. Edited August 2, 2023 by LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Bimpy474 said: For the same reason we kept getting linked with expensive players under Ashley mate, it's pure bullshit. And now we're back at the top end, the bullshit means more clicks than ever. Our name will be chucked into all sorts of nonsense transfer wise. I’m including Gordon, Barnes and the concrete links to Livramento. Our forays into Ligue 1 has landed us relative bargains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 If we are getting battered down our left hand side in the first four games by Diaby, Silva, Salah and Enciso then it’s fair to ask why we are starting the season with Dan Burn at left back instead of upgrading on the position, since it is a clear weakness in the starting eleven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: I just don’t see that, to be honest. Almiron was one of our stand out performers for half of last season. Murphy played really well when called upon. We also have Gordon who can play there. RB and RCB are priorities IMO. The rest can wait. Im not saying that it should be a priority over CB and LB. But none of the ones you mentioned gives me much confidence against teams that sit back and kill all the space. Teams this season will be more aware and less naive and try to avoid giving us too many transitions or space in behind. Low block defending, especially from the lesser teams. If we want to evolve then I’d rather not see Murphy start too many games for us. Why did so many on here mention a right sided player (most did) as what we really should get. Suddenly many on here don’t think it’s needed. I’m not demanding it, and won’t get pissed off about it. Just what I think we really need. Edited August 2, 2023 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: If we are getting battered down our left hand side in the first four games by Diaby, Silva, Salah and Enciso then it’s fair to ask why we are starting the season with Dan Burn at left back instead of upgrading on the position, since it is a clear weakness in the starting eleven. In fairness we didn’t get battered by any of them last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Man, I absolutely can not wait for the pre-match meltdowns again this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ben said: Thats a rather negative Nelly appraisal, I'm not sure where you see us this season but I reckon Villa, Spurs and Brighton is our level, I think with a good run we can challenge Man U and Chelsea for 4th but our wage bill must be 25% of the top 6. Champions league will be a blast this season but bringing in 5 £50 million players with wages to match could bring the whole good vibes at the club crashing down. Yeah, it was a fairly negative view of a squad that played and finished amazingly last season. But you have to improve, firstly because everyone else is and secondly, because every team has spent since last season analysing us and figuring out ways to beat us. Going into a season with some unknown factors usually helps. I guess we’ll see where we end up at the end of the transfer window, but given how long it takes Eddie to get players up to speed, early signings would’ve made a lot more sense. I realise it’s not Football Manager but come on ??♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, LV said: Man, I absolutely can not wait for the pre-match meltdowns again this season. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I’m including Gordon, Barnes and the concrete links to Livramento. Our forays into Ligue 1 has landed us relative bargains. Aye, Jack j mentioned that. Not like me to come in mid conversation like a blundering fool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: In fairness we didn’t get battered by any of them last season. That doesn’t justify not improving our worst positions in the starting eleven though, teams were targeting Burn in the second half of the season and they will do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I would prefer to be like we are rather than make a load of villa signings. It's been successful so far so let's just trust the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, LV said: Man, I absolutely can not wait for the pre-match meltdowns again this season. Personally can't wait for 5 minutes into the match threads... 'Eddie needs to change things he's been found out now' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: That Zefi is supposedly really highly rated. Youtube suggests he's gonna be the next Messi: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 28 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: That doesn’t justify not improving our worst positions in the starting eleven though, teams were targeting Burn in the second half of the season and they will do it again. Any thoughts that Howe might not see things like you? He MIGHT see Dan Burn as an asset who helped us have the equal meanest defence in the league, he MIGHT look at Miggy as our top goalscoring midfielder and someone who carries out his press exactly how he wants. I've yet to hear anyone come up with a left back who doesn't cost 40m+, who can defend and attack with equal quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, STM said: Any thoughts that Howe might not see things like you? He MIGHT see Dan Burn as an asset who helped us have the equal meanest defence in the league, he MIGHT look at Miggy as our top goalscoring midfielder and someone who carries out his press exactly how he wants. I've yet to hear anyone come up with a left back who doesn't cost 40m+, who can defend and attack with equal quality. He can see both of those things and still realise that they are the weakest positions in the first team now we have upgraded in midfield. If he doesn’t then where does he see the weaknesses? If we don’t improve the first team then we go backwards, as our rivals will continue to improve. I like how we lauded Ashworth coming in to bring in similar signings like he did at Brighton and now we can’t find a better left back in world football who is better than Dan Burn for less than £40 million! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: That doesn’t justify not improving our worst positions in the starting eleven though, teams were targeting Burn in the second half of the season and they will do it again. Perhaps it’s limited budget and not enough money to buy someone better than what we have. Burn is more than decent and the defence was more efficient than the attack last season and maybe that’s where the money was focussed as the best way of getting better results. Turn some of the many draws into wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, OCK said: Wow Beth. Wow. Just coming in here thinking you're an elite level scout able to judge ability on haircuts like that. It took me years of shitposting to achieve my qualification. Years. What a shit comeback. You should be ashamed of yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Magpie Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just because a team buys a new player, even a highly rated one, does not equate to an automatic team improvement. They may be slightly stronger, as a team, they may not. If every player bought automatically improved the team the premier league would have probably left the atmosphere by now. I don't recall Burn getting consistetnly rinsed by any attacker last season, now and again yes, but not throughout the 90m. I would agree we need more strength in depth, and especially more pace in defence, but I guess every hole needing darning can't get fixed in one window. The recruitment team will be doing their best within the limits being shoved in their faces, time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, Beth said: What a shit comeback. You should be ashamed of yourself. Youtubers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Beth said: What a shit comeback. You should be ashamed of yourself. This is pretty much the default running in my head when I see that you've posted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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