BeloEmre Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: 'If' this summer turns out to be as bad as we all fear come the end of the month, i can't see PIF being owa happy - at all. Ehm they are the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 15 minutes ago, Stottie said: Mitchell slagged us for overpaying and the PSR debacle that cost Minteh and Anderson but was designed to cost us Bruno. Now we're getting slagged for not paying enough and not convincing players that we're better prospect for them than other clubs that are more famous and have been more successful in recent times. We go for ambitious, high-profile targets, fail, some say failure was coming a mile off, and then the same people kick off when lower profile targets (Wissa, McGinn etc.) get mentioned. They say we are "shopping like West Ham". Some things you just can't win. Whatever it is, I do not find it "embarrassing", unless you want to buy into Talksport mickey taking. Man U may have Sesko, but they're not in the CL. They'll have to improve a lot to get near us this season. There is definitely a middle ground between the players we've missed out on and McGinn like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: 'If' this summer turns out to be as bad as we all fear come the end of the month, i can't see PIF being owa happy - at all. They’ve had plenty of time to step in and do something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, gdm said: They’ve had plenty of time to step in and do something They also had plenty of time last year and did nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, The Prophet said: It'll be largely on them. Massively on them. As shit as the current summer situation is, I was thinking earlier that this could be a good thing in the long term. I can't imagine being told "No" goes down well with them it very rarely happens and they're not used to hearing it. They probably will take it personally and it could 'refocus' their effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 I stand corrected then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, BlazeT44 said: Massively on them. As shit as the current summer situation is, I was thinking earlier that this could be a good thing in the long term. I can't imagine being told "No" goes down well with them it very rarely happens and they're not used to hearing it. They probably will take it personally and it could 'refocus' their effort. We have heard stuff like this for ages tbf. Regarding PSR, transfers, the big 6 etc, however for the last year or so, it seems like they really couldn’t care less. Let’s see if any stadium plans are announced, at least then we may have an idea if they are still interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 5 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: 'If' this summer turns out to be as bad as we all fear come the end of the month, i can't see PIF being owa happy - at all. Who are they not going to be happy with, themselves or the PSR rules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 19 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Bet those sitting next to you didn’t though. No one suspected a thing once I’d stashed my key behind the cistern in the toilets at the farmers (god rest its soul. Best pub in Newcastle). Couple of beers to settle my stomach and it was like nothing happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 20 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Athletic had names we should target earlier. Think it was Jackson, Larsen, Samuel and Ramos. I've provided a list of names on the transfer rumour page that could fit the bill. It only took ten minutes to source them and there are loads more if you want to add to the list. Fuck all these overpriced EPL lower teams back up strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 I know there’s a major drop off in quality from the Premier League to the Championship, but if one of the issues is how players in foreign leagues will adapt to the English game, isn’t there an opportunity to catch some talent there while maybe still mitigating some risk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 I do think Rodrygo is a good poster boy and replacement for Isak and could play as a false 9. Hence I’d like to see us spend the Sesko money on him. Play like PSG this season and he could be our Dembele. Elanga is Doue and Gordon is like Kvara. Fluid and can see Howe be adaptable enough to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, kingxlnc said: I do think Rodrygo is a good poster boy and replacement for Isak and could play as a false 9. Hence I’d like to see us spend the Sesko money on him. Play like PSG this season and he could be our Dembele. Elanga is Doue and Gordon is like Kvara. Fluid and can see Howe be adaptable enough to do that. Hes on 350 grand a week or something obscene And hes got much bigger fish to fry than us Edited August 7, 2025 by jack j Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, jack j said: Hes on 350 grand a week or something obscene Just pay him the Targett money Just now, jack j said: Hes on 350 grand a week or something obscene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeT44 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Jonas said: Who are they not going to be happy with, themselves or the PSR rules? As a business owner, you try and invest in a structure that you believe is right. For them, it was Ashworth, Mitchell and Eales. Clearly wrong in hindsight but once you've made hires in good faith, you expect results. They didn't come. That's massively frustrating as an owner. Frustrated at yourself, the people you employed and the situation. Then this summer, they've attacked 4-5 clear targets that they've been monitoring/scouting, are a 'fit' in terms of playing style and character, and players Eddie has given the green light to sign. If reports are to be believed, even when we've matched clubs valuations, we've been rejected by the player. That's frustrating and potentially insulting. It's not an unwillingness to spend or act. Then, the Isak situation. Your star employee comes to your door and hands their notice in and effectively goes on strike. That's shit and not something that's in their control (unless they bow down to huge wage demands with 3 years left on the contract). As a business owner you can believe you've made many informed decisions in good faith, but have not got the results you wanted. That's really frustrating and two things happen - you quit totally or you learn lessons and come back fighting. We might not see the fight back until they've completed the thorough analysis and have 'war roomed' future scenarios. Edited August 7, 2025 by BlazeT44 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 This is the worst window I can remember, so far. Given the context and what we needed to do. I hadn’t realised how bad things were behind the scenes. It’s been like someone who doesn’t know that much about football lazily playing Football Manager. Unless we pull our fingers out over the next 3 weeks I think it sets us back years and ruins any good work done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, J7 said: This is the worst window I can remember, so far. Given the context and what we needed to do. I hadn’t realised how bad things were behind the scenes. It’s been like someone who doesn’t know that much about football lazily playing Football Manager. Unless we pull our fingers out over the next 3 weeks I think it sets us back years and ruins any good work done. Unless something drastic happens we ate not signing multiple players in 3 weeks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 This shitshow is certainly on PIF but there is a massive misconception on here on what PIF is and how they operate. They are a sovereign wealth fund and an investor. They would not ordinarily get involved in any day to day running of the private assets that they own. Similar in many ways to a pension fund in the UK. However, they do of course have the responsibility of establishing a sound management structure to run the club and this appears to be a shambles since Stavely left. No permanent CEO for the best part of a year is unforgivable and then we have the mess of Ashworth/Mitchell etc. I have no idea how PIF can effectively delegate under the current structure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 4 minutes ago, Ben said: Unless something drastic happens we ate not signing multiple players in 3 weeks Yep. I think it’s damage limitation now. We seem to be completely clueless when it comes to CB and CM targets too, never mind missing out on strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 1 minute ago, Boey_Jarton said: This shitshow is certainly on PIF but there is a massive misconception on here on what PIF is and how they operate. They are a sovereign wealth fund and an investor. They would not ordinarily get involved in any day to day running of the private assets that they own. Similar in many ways to a pension fund in the UK. However, they do of course have the responsibility of establishing a sound management structure to run the club and this appears to be a shambles since Stavely left. No permanent CEO for the best part of a year is unforgivable and then we have the mess of Ashworth/Mitchell etc. I have no idea how PIF can effectively delegate under the current structure. They dont mind celebrating on the pitch when we win a cup though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) Wissa for Isak (who finally get his 'only ever wanted Liverpool') and two emergency loans for a CM and CB would be sensational progress compared to the past two weeks. Osula and Gordon will have to do as striker backups till Jan. Feel we need a change of personnel to sort our the current shit show, and that ain't happening in time. Edited August 7, 2025 by Turnbull2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 47 minutes ago, Skjaere9 said: I Anyways, is Big Vurn still alive? Bring him in on a free for midfield depth? 🙃 We should’ve kept Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Definitely feels like there has been a concerted effort from all angles in the media to undermine us. I’m really surprised they haven’t started linking Tonali away in a big way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Sima said: Definitely feels like there has been a concerted effort from all angles in the media to undermine us. I’m really surprised they haven’t started linking Tonali away in a big way. That'll be January and next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 This window has officially surpassed the Anita window as the worst in my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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