GeordieDazzler Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 40 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Fab and Ornstein are effectively client journalist at this point. They either get paid to put info out, or put info out for engagement, so it becomes very easy for clubs and agents to create a narrative. It's become obvious we don't do this, so the narrative will always run against us. The club would probably be best served by cultivating a relationship with influencers like them, I don’t like either, especially Romano, but they have massive influence. Hasn’t he got something like 100m followers? We’ve seen first hand this window how influential controlling the narrative can be. Some of the early Ekitike/Isak updates felt like they’d been written in the Anfield boardroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Absolute bullshit. Strand Larsen is a very good relatively young striker who scored 14 goals in his PL season. He’s comfortably a £35m-£45m player in today’s market. Have you seen the quality of players Sunderland have been spending £20m+ on? Im not saying he’s the solution or a replacement for Isak, but as a second choice striker if the Wissa deal doesn’t happen for any reason, it wouldn’t be the worst move. Lets agree to disagree on this one. Sunderland have bought a lot of players....all barring possibly Xhaka are gambles and its almost certain some wont pay off. Some of them might, amd if they do good for them But were not fishing in a pond for.20m players.....were looking at 40 m plus. I think Strand Larsen is closer to a Sunderland signing than a club looking to push up from 4/5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 17 minutes ago, duo said: Not the best source I’ll take whatever supports my agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boey_Jarton said: This shitshow is certainly on PIF but there is a massive misconception on here on what PIF is and how they operate. They are a sovereign wealth fund and an investor. They would not ordinarily get involved in any day to day running of the private assets that they own. Similar in many ways to a pension fund in the UK. However, they do of course have the responsibility of establishing a sound management structure to run the club and this appears to be a shambles since Stavely left. No permanent CEO for the best part of a year is unforgivable and then we have the mess of Ashworth/Mitchell etc. I have no idea how PIF can effectively delegate under the current structure. Football clubs are not a pension fund business. To get to the top of the game like Yasir has said - you cannot run NUFC like a pension fund. Crystal Palace, to Forest, to Spurs, to fucking Real Madrid - none of these clubs are ran like pension funds. All of them have active CHAIRMAN. Was the day after our sale, Daniel Levy emailed the premier league to push through the APT rule changes. Forests owners are doing so many dodgy transfers and personally breaking contractual release clauses with players and forcing them to stay a further year. Florentino Perez has been waging war with UEFA for at least half a decade in an attempt to preserve Real Madrid as the dominant force in European football. This is what Chairman’s of football clubs need to do to survive and thrive. We aren’t beating Daniel Levy with hands off owners. Edited August 7, 2025 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 30 minutes ago, sempuki said: Not the most Dutch of names. Try saying it like Schteve McClaren would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 I feel like the very top can be hands off as long as they have properly empowered the people they put in place to fully run the club. The PIF don't seem to have done that since Staveley left Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 This is what makes the CEO appointment so significant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 39 minutes ago, JT24 said: Yes please. Anyone any idea if this lad is actually any good or not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 To be fair to PIF, the appointments have been high profile and to coin a INEOS phrase 'best in class'. Dan Ashworth - huge reputation for being the best out there Paul Mitchell everyone was over the moon that he agreed - he had said no to Man Utd previously Even Darren Eales had a great rep for buiilding Atlanta from the ground up into champions All had pedigree to be fair - no-one could have guessed it would have been like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack0 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 16 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: The club would probably be best served by cultivating a relationship with influencers like them, I don’t like either, especially Romano, but they have massive influence. Hasn’t he got something like 100m followers? We’ve seen first hand this window how influential controlling the narrative can be. Some of the early Ekitike/Isak updates felt like they’d been written in the Anfield boardroom. I think he's 'only' got about 26m followers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 That's me. Same time tomorrow lads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Any of them worth a punt on to bolster the midfield? Couple of old players aswell for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 50 minutes ago, JT24 said: Yes please. For now, you stay at Brize Norton, Kenneth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Bring Jonjo and Mehdi Abeid home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Sima said: For now, you stay at Brize Norton, Kenneth. What a good old Dutch sounding name he has. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 56 minutes ago, JT24 said: Yes please. Please no. I look at him and see the same issues that plagued Davy Klassen and Siem De Jong. He's a system player benefitting from a talent imbalance against weaker opponents. I'd say he's got slightly more about him than De Jong or Klassen, but that's not saying much given both of them had a horrendous time outside of Dutch football. If we sign him you'll soon see he's just a Dutch Sean Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 De Jong was technically very gifted, not sure why he failed so bad as he had a lot of talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 3 minutes ago, gbandit said: De Jong was technically very gifted, not sure why he failed so bad as he had a lot of talent Cripple wasn't he? If he could stay fit there was definite talent there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 18 minutes ago, andycap said: Any of them worth a punt on to bolster the midfield? Couple of old players aswell for free. Give me a few of the Ruskis, Pjanic and the Romford Pjanic himself, Sir Jonjo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 6 minutes ago, Kooiman said: Please no. I look at him and see the same issues that plagued Davy Klassen and Siem De Jong. He's a system player benefitting from a talent imbalance against weaker opponents. I'd say he's got slightly more about him than De Jong or Klassen, but that's not saying much given both of them had a horrendous time outside of Dutch football. If we sign him you'll soon see he's just a Dutch Sean Longstaff. Van de Beek could also fall into that bracket, as another who looked wonderful in a functioning Ajax team and at a loss everywhere else he's been since. Shame really, if he'd just stayed at Ajax he could have had himself a really good career at a beautiful football club. I guess the financial draw is too much of a lure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 6 minutes ago, andycap said: Cripple wasn't he? If he could stay fit there was definite talent there. Aye, had a horrific time with injuries. The few games he managed to play he looked quality. Must've been a good character as well. Wasn't he immediately made vice captain? Or have I made that up in my head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Was almost comical how bad the De Jong brothers were for us mind One couldn't kick a ball and the other was allergic to grass ( and had his lung collapse and eye detach) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kooiman Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just now, Infinitely Content said: Van de Beek could also fall into that bracket, as another who looked wonderful in a functioning Ajax team and at a loss everywhere else he's been since. Shame really, if he'd just stayed at Ajax he could have had himself a really good career at a beautiful football club. I guess the financial draw is too much of a lure. Van de Beek is the perfect comparison actually. He's more of an 8 than a 10. I think you're right, but it's tricky. They want to be challenged, the money isn't great (relatively). It's why those Ajax graduates feel so hit and miss for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 31 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: To be fair to PIF, the appointments have been high profile and to coin a INEOS phrase 'best in class'. Dan Ashworth - huge reputation for being the best out there Paul Mitchell everyone was over the moon that he agreed - he had said no to Man Utd previously Even Darren Eales had a great rep for buiilding Atlanta from the ground up into champions All had pedigree to be fair - no-one could have guessed it would have been like this they did nought man - they were terrible appointments. Lived off the back of the efforts of Eddie and Amanda. Not even starting development of a new training ground is unforgivable. And probably cost us this window - what project can they bloody sell to new players? It is four years since the takeover and the silence if deafening. City started development of theirs three years after they were took over. We haven't even announced any plans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted August 7, 2025 Share Posted August 7, 2025 Just makes them look like absentee landlords at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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