JT24 Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 Any danger of this being confirmed, Ornstein? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 I just assumed our lot take the weekend off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 3 minutes ago, JT24 said: Any danger of this being confirmed, Ornstein? We don’t work weekends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 8 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: We don’t work weekends. I bet that was an Andy Howe decision. Another reason to add to the list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: Weekend. Log back into work emails Monday morning to continue negotiations. A football club that doesn’t work weekends? Perhaps we’ve shut down for the summer like a school. Would explain a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 (edited) On 04/07/2025 at 12:02, Froggy said: We haven't been paying Antony's wages and Hojlund has more G&A in his career than Elanga and is a year younger. But if it's not from Statman Dave maybe that doesn't count? Lets look at Prem stats. Elanga has 1 g/a per 182 min. Hojlund 1 g/a per 246 min. In the last 2 seasons both Elanga and Murphy has more assists in total than Bruno Fernandes. That must mean that they are better playmakers. Edited July 6, 2025 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 Why does everything we do take ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Nine said: Am I the only one who does think that Elanga is worth 55-60m in today’s market then?? Not seen anyone suggesting a comparable player in terms of prem experience that we could sign for less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1892er Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 2 minutes ago, Scoot said: Why does everything we do take ages. It really does. Hopefully we hear about the stadium plans this year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 3 minutes ago, 1892er said: It really does. Hopefully we hear about the stadium plans this year Hopefully we hear about Elanga this year too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 1 hour ago, Nine said: Am I the only one who does think that Elanga is worth 55-60m in today’s market then?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 11 minutes ago, Scoot said: Why does everything we do take ages. I feel a few clubs are spending forever negotiating fees these days. Man U still haven’t agreed one for Mbeumo, and Arsenal seem to take a long time as well. On the other hand Liverpool and Man City are pretty quick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 1 minute ago, Erikse said: Lets look at Prem stats. Elanga has 1 g/a per 182 min. Hojlund 1 g/a per 246 min. In the last 2 seasons both Elanga and Murphy has more assists in total than Bruno Fernandes. That must mean that they are better playmakers. You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: I like both Elanga and Mbeumo, but how is one easily a game changer worth £60m+ and Elanga not? Is it just because of the scoring record at RW where he’s significantly outperformed his xg? 15 in 38 and 4 in 25 if you take out his penalties (as we have Isak) in his last two seasons. Paying premium fee for expectation last season is going to be the bar going forward. Again remove pens, it’s G/A every 148 mins, Elanga 147. They’re both matching each other and you can argue Elanga probably can improve. This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 2 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. Really interesting. Brentford should fight tooth and nail to keep him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 Imagine writing all of that Mbuemo cock sucking and not even mentioning that he's bald. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 He doesn’t even play for Man Utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 21 minutes ago, Scoot said: Why does everything we do take ages. I assume every decision has to go through Yasir who is busy running multiple companies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. These stats will be ancient history when he’s playing under Amorim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 12 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. It seems like I made my first assist on this forum just now. That's 1 assist in 3,8k posts for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 12 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. Many of these stats depend on the way teams play. Forest had a very low possession % if I remember right, so it is quite clear that Elanga has fewer passes. I havent checked Brentford’s stats, but Forest was mainly a counter attacking team. Penalties need to be scored, but we already have a player for them. And I think Mbeumo is a better player. He is also much more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 15 minutes ago, Froggy said: You're just proving my point. Someone shared a graphic showing Elanga has more assists than Palmer/Fernandes etc. As you say, a lot more to it than that. For example: This is just talking about G&A, which are very similar per 90 if you remove penalties (as if penalties don't need scored). But as you say @Erikse, it's deeper than that. Mbeumo's pass completion is better than Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the penalty area than Elanga He has over double the amount of progressive passes than Elanga He has more progressive carries than Elanga and nearly double the amount of carries as Elanga He has a 46% take on success compared to 30% for Elanga He has over double the amount of passes into the final third than Elanga He has more shot creating actions than Elanga He has over 2x the amount of tackles as Elanga and nearly 2x the amount of tackles won He has nearly triple the success rate of tackles on attacking players than Elanga He has 2x as many blocks as Elanga He has 2x the amount of interceptions as Elanga He has nearly double the amount of ball recoveries as Elanga Simply put, he's miles better than Elanga, and people are using non-penalty G&A stats per 90 to try and compare the two, when Mbeumo blows him away in almost every other statistic. That's not to say Eddie Howe can't turn him into a monster, but at this moment time he's simply an essential cog in a counter-attacking side. Friendly wager (if the two go through) as to who will have the more productive season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 14 minutes ago, duo said: I assume every decision has to go through Yasir who is busy running multiple companies Would be suprised if that is the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 16 minutes ago, Andy84 said: He doesn’t even play for Man Utd Nobody said that he did. Someone just made the comparison between the two and stated that the goals and assists per 90 should be the reason why they go for a similar price. 4 minutes ago, Theregulars said: Friendly wager (if the two go through) as to who will have the more productive season? I've already got a wager on this season about league finishes. Thought one of these players is going to a Champions League side with the best manager and striker in the league, and the other is going to a relegation threatened side with a fraud for a manager. So it surely wouldn't be fair to try and compare those two would it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Would be suprised if that is the case. That every decision has to go through Yasir? I am sure that impression was given during the Amazon Docu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted July 6, 2025 Share Posted July 6, 2025 3 minutes ago, Froggy said: Nobody said that he did. Someone just made the comparison between the two and stated that the goals and assists per 90 should be the reason why they go for a similar price. I've already got a wager on this season about league finishes. Thought one of these players is going to a Champions League side with the best manager and striker in the league, and the other is going to a relegation threatened side with a fraud for a manager. So it surely wouldn't be fair to try and compare those two would it? I don’t think you’ll be relegated and I don’t yet think Amorim is a fraud (although I’m not sure which manager will be able to succeed in your current set-up). I think Howe and Isak amongst best in their respective classes, but you’d think if Mbeumo is what you say he is it would be easy money. FWIW I think it would be close, I wanted Mbeumo over Elanga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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