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Just now, Vaj said:

Every single player we have attempted to sign this window is attainable and would have happily joined. Just because they have ended up elsewhere doesn't mean they wouldn't have signed for us. Going after top players runs the risk of this happening but if we didn't go after top players in the first place we never would have signed Bruno, Tonali or Isak. 

 

Correct. The key is finding out where you stand ASAP so you can move on with time spare which we have along with Isak on this occasion.

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7 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

So we're back to just assuming our decision-makers are idiots who are clueless in terms of identifying attainable targets. 

 

Of course in reality, they're not idiots. They know what they're doing but are fighting an uphill battle in the context of PSR and its varied impact depending on which club you are.

 

Chasing extremely talented players whose true, un-inflated, values we can match delivered us the likes of Isak and Tonali. It's not like those players won't have been coveted. 

I'm not calling them idiots, overly ambitious yes, misread the market yes? Idiots no I don't think so. 

 

This isn't the first rodeo for us this summer going head to head with them, and so far it hasn't worked out in our favour. 

 

We had a free run at both Isak and Tonali, that was actually top notch recruitment hence me not calling them idiots. 

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Just now, The Prophet said:

I don't understand what the club has done wrong in this instance?


 

As a club, nothing. But the overall feeling is another one of the big 6 has swooped in again. Once or twice is unfortunate but every target smacks of something far more insidious going on.

 

Just isn’t even enjoyable anymore.

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2 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I don't understand what the club has done wrong in this instance?

By not bowing down like good little servants to the big 6, and putting ourselves out there to get elite talent. 

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1 minute ago, Tiresias said:

It's not happened once or twice as is too be expected, it's happened to a half dozen. We are then wasting huge amount of time chasing moving goal posts. I'm sorry this is happening too much to be just bad luck. 

It isn't just bad luck but I would rather we targeted top players who could have brought us on a few levels then settle for somebody that we are not sure on. We have got to where we are by having a list of targets that we are certain on and we haven't missed once in the transfer market with the Saudi's once. I don't want them to change there approach as shit and annoying as this window has been. 

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1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

I don't understand what the club has done wrong in this instance?

Nothing. They have done all they can,  its just getting a little bit embarrassing how much we are being rejected.

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1 minute ago, Andy said:

 

Nothing, unless we don't have a Plan B that we've already been working on for the somewhat likely scenario that he chooses Man Utd. It really depends on how we react to the deal going to fuck. 

If the plan b is Jackson or Watkins? 

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3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I don't understand what the club has done wrong in this instance?

 

I don't think they could've done more. They just need to move on to the next person on the list. If we can't get someone like Ramos from PSG then we'll just have to plan for Isak staying. Which is less than ideal. 

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4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Disregarding targets whose valuations we can actually meet - because a cartel club might gazump us - would be lunacy imo, and incredibly wet behaviour. If there was only five minutes left of the window it would be an extremely dicey approach, because the risk of losing out is abundantly clear, but with weeks left to do business I don't see the problem in taking a shot at the best targets. That's what we need to guarantee we stay where we are/progress.

Exactly. 

 

A byproduct of the club's success is that we've shown ourselves to be very good talent spotters. I firmly believe that's why several clubs have gazumped us to players this season. Either you believe they snuck in after the fact, or we also happen to be on the trail of some brilliant talent. Either way it shows how well we're doing. 

 

It hasn't felt more pronounced than with Sesko. Man Utd had all summer to move for him. As soon as Newcastle start sniffing Man Utd are on the scene. We talk a lot about the evolution of the club and a path forward, but this for me is the hardest obstacle. We're going to miss out on good players that would do a lot here because of money and other trappings. That will change in time, I hope, but it's going to be frustrating. This whole project is building up a football club in a way no Premier League team has had to in modern times. 

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2 minutes ago, Ashley17 said:

Let’s hope Delo Brown from the Slovenian Times or whatever it was called was right and he has chosen us. Somehow I think not though…

Sounds like he has 'chosen' both of us, so that report was probably not wrong. Just sounds like if all things are equal he would prefer Man Utd. At the moment things aren't equal so it depends how much he prefers Man Utd as to whether he now puts pressure on RB Liepzig.

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2 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

If the plan b is Jackson or Watkins? 

 

I would've taken either as a replacement for Wilson, obviously they aren't the answer as a replacement for Isak. 

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26 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

We're never going to close the gap, are we? Fuck me this is depressing.

 

We're never going to close it going after mercenaries who don't want to play here.  We've already closed it plenty :thup:

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Just now, r0cafella said:

Both will cost 60m plus we don't have that for the Wilson replacement. 

 

Well, we're talking hypotheticals, I'd assume neither of those are the next on the list given that our aim is apparently to replace Isak. 

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