TopL0ader Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 18 minutes ago, Gawalls said: He's conceded 6 goals in last 4 prem games - when your forwards have to score 2 goals on average per game to have any chance of picking points up then it gives you a hill to climb. Nick popes in comparison is 1.06 goals per game but 22 -24 it was 0.86 average goals per game. In my opinion that's what we need to be getting back to. You can't do that and make stats fit your point of view. It would work anyway to suit an argument. For example I bet the opponents XG has been higher in the games which Ramsdale has played which wouldn't be his fault for conceding goals. He has been at fault for none of the six goals we've conceded in the previous 4 games I don't believe. We need to be getting back to stats in 22-24 isn't a decent argument, it's like saying we need Shay Given in goal again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopL0ader Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 13 minutes ago, Chris_R said: I've got little interest in us playing a good footballer in nets who can't keep goal. I'd infinitely rather have a good goalkeeper in nets who can't play football. Really don't want him in goal vs the mackems. Aside from just wanting an actual GK in nets for a big game like this, they're not (to my knowledge) a high pressing high tempo team that'll pressure our back line, are they? In which case we need someone with Ramsdale's skillset even less. John Ruddy it is then.... Great shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Jesus Christ. Nah he's scared of crosses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, TopL0ader said: You can't do that and make stats fit your point of view. It would work anyway to suit an argument. For example I bet the opponents XG has been higher in the games which Ramsdale has played which wouldn't be his fault for conceding goals. He has been at fault for none of the six goals we've conceded in the previous 4 games I don't believe. We need to be getting back to stats in 22-24 isn't a decent argument, it's like saying we need Shay Given in goal again This one's just raw facts - in those 4 games he's faced 9 shots on target, made 3 saves and conceded 6 goals. I personally don't care about xg etc but in my opinion that's not good enough. Edited December 10, 2025 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 10 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Nah he's scared of crosses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted December 10, 2025 Share Posted December 10, 2025 18 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Jesus Christ. He'll claim a cross, good shout, Neese. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 20 minutes ago, Gawalls said: This one's just raw facts - in those 4 games he's faced 9 shots on target, made 3 saves and conceded 6 goals. I personally don't care about xg etc but in my opinion that's not good enough. Which ones should he have stopped ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopL0ader Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Gawalls said: This one's just raw facts - in those 4 games he's faced 9 shots on target, made 3 saves and conceded 6 goals. I personally don't care about xg etc but in my opinion that's not good enough. Raw facts are stats my man. Pope faces 200 shots and concedes only 1. Ramsdale faces 9 shots and concedes 6. Well 6 out of Ramsdale shots faced weren't stoppable. Pope should've saved all 200 shots by throwing a flat cap on them and the one he let in he tripped and the ball only just rolled over the line. I'm being daft I know but you can make stats fit any point of view. In summary Ramsdale has done nothing wrong, you have a conscious biased poor opinion of him, like I do but positive opinion as he hasn't done anything wrong as yet. A time come when I agree with you but for now he has not done anything really wrong Edited December 11, 2025 by TopL0ader Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 He’s not a good shot stopper. He don’t command his box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 1 hour ago, TopL0ader said: You can't do that and make stats fit your point of view. It would work anyway to suit an argument. For example I bet the opponents XG has been higher in the games which Ramsdale has played which wouldn't be his fault for conceding goals. He has been at fault for none of the six goals we've conceded in the previous 4 games I don't believe. We need to be getting back to stats in 22-24 isn't a decent argument, it's like saying we need Shay Given in goal again Pope would have saved their equaliser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 I like what he brings to the build. That’s about it. He’s unfortunately worse than Pope at every other aspect of the game. We’re fucked with either of them for the long term, Pope invites teams onto us through poor retention and turnovers, Ramsdale gives confidence to the attacking teams that you can score from any set piece scenario in our own half. You just need to progress the ball far enough for a foul or a corner. We desperately need better, but there isn’t a plug and play option out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 If only we could fuse Pope and Ramsdale we would have one of the best in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 I'm hoping the decision to loan him was a can kicking exercise and not a trial period. We will back him whilst he wears our colours but he isn't the answer long term and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Fwiw I don't think he did anything wrong against Bayer however he's a bomb scare from corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 31 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I'm hoping the decision to loan him was a can kicking exercise and not a trial period. We will back him whilst he wears our colours but he isn't the answer long term and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Fwiw I don't think he did anything wrong against Bayer however he's a bomb scare from corners. you just wish a keeper of his supposed experience makes that late save though you know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 6 hours ago, TopL0ader said: Ramsdale in the games he has played whether you shit yourself on set pieces or not has done nothing wrong. Nothing.... I had to Google one suggestion SVILAR He is the one that caught it from a set piece and then walked over his own line conceding a goal... No thanks... Early on Thiaw's pace saved us as he doesn't come off his line like Pope does, and for their first he may as well have been an outfield player, I have no idea what he was doing, he's too often anonymous when the ball comes into a crowded box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 There is just something about his body language that doesn't inspire confidence. He's not bad but he's not a long-term solution if we want to kick on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 He looked terrified at one point before a corner in the second half when they were piling it on. That doesn’t happen Inspire confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 7 hours ago, Minhosa said: Bloke just invites problems from set pieces with him being constantly wedded to his line. Has zero presence. Zero presence and zero authority. My arse goes every time we concede a corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 5 hours ago, r0cafella said: I'm hoping the decision to loan him was a can kicking exercise and not a trial period. We will back him whilst he wears our colours but he isn't the answer long term and this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Fwiw I don't think he did anything wrong against Bayer however he's a bomb scare from corners. Thats well summed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 It’s pretty clear we need a new goal keeper who will probably be signed next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 Echo others who say we desperately need a new keeper. Just hope it isn’t Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 Fucking better be Ramsdale and not Ramsfail after Sunday: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 Smallest 6ft 2” keeper I’ve seen. He doesn’t impose himself at all, corners are a right lottery with him stuck on his line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted December 11, 2025 Share Posted December 11, 2025 9 hours ago, London Mag said: I think too many had an opinion on Ramsdale before he even pulled a shirt on. Criticism has been way over board Just give the lad a few games to settle and then we’ll see. If it wasn’t for the equaliser I think he would have taken a lot of confidence from that game and have settled into the role. Hopefully he still will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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