Jacob Ramsey

[Joelinton7]

35 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

I assume that's why we looked at El Khannouss.

So we’re helping our close rivals out with FFP by signing the rotation player who’s often injured and hasn’t had a good season in 3 years. And we also already have this player at the club. I’m baffled by this one. Especially for £40m.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, JT24 said:

I’ll give them Targett but the rest are outstanding successes. Get tae fuck. 

 

Targett's an OK player and 156m is basically nothing. 

[Unbelievable]

2 minutes ago, JT24 said:

Your guy is shite

[Big River]

Just now, oldtype said:

Wow that's a lot of money  but okay.

 

Dewsbury-Hall just went for 30m

 

hope this helps

[JT24]

Just now, Unbelievable said:

Your guy is shite

Unbelievable. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, Joelinton7 said:

So we’re helping our close rivals out with FFP by signing the rotation player who’s often injured and hasn’t had a good season in 3 years. And we also already have this player at the club. I’m baffled by this one. Especially for £40m.

 

Have to say it's very weird that we're constantly saying he's the same as Willock. Why is this? They just play a similar position. 

[TheBrownBottle]

8 minutes ago, gdm said:

Someone also said this on villa talk so not convinced on some opinions

 

Yep, given the money they've spent their overall squad is quite poor.

Some of the signings they've made remind of MON's time here.

Targett: £15 million

Barnes: £38 million

Liveramento: £35 million

Hall: £28 million

The 2020's equivalent to signing Reo-Coker for £8 million in 2007 or signing Warnock, Dunne and Collins for a combined £20 million plus in 2009.

I'm confused - are you talking about us or them?  We signed those players, not Villa

 

edit: apologies gdm - it reads like it was your take.  Didn't realise it was a quote.  The idea that Hall or Livramento were bad buys is nuts

 

 

Edited August 12, 2025 by TheBrownBottle

[SteV]

Just now, Joelinton7 said:

So we’re helping our close rivals out with FFP by signing the rotation player who’s often injured and hasn’t had a good season in 3 years. And we also already have this player at the club. I’m baffled by this one. Especially for £40m.

*2 years

 

He was excellent in 22/23

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

Miley can cover Tonali or Bruno's position.

 

First choice midfield:

Joelinton - Tonali - Bruno 

 

Second choice:

Willock - Miley - Ramsey

 

Ideally we'd get someone else in because Willock is a crock but it's okay other than that.

 

Plus we have Lewis Hall who could do it in an emergency.

 

 

 

Just a little bit sceptical if our midfield would be tough enough on that second choice line-up..

[Mazzy]

1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said:

Bone injuries are ok

Muscle injuries would be more concerning 

 

His 23/24 season was awful for injuries. Got to hope that was just a one off. 

 

The three hamstring injuries don't seem too bad considering they kept him out for around 5 weeks each time.

[Matt1892]

Hopefully £40 million is with add ons, which include us winning the Champions League and him winning the Ballon d’Or to get to that amount.

[Smal]

I don’t think £40m is much here tbh . It’s at the bottom end of the £40m-£50m bracket I was expecting the fee to be. He is a highly rated player from a divisional rival at a good age.

 

I just hope he can stay fit enough over the course of a season to have an impact.

 

 

Edited August 12, 2025 by Smal

[The Prophet]

4 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

So we’re helping our close rivals out with FFP by signing the rotation player who’s often injured and hasn’t had a good season in 3 years. And we also already have this player at the club. I’m baffled by this one. Especially for £40m.

 

Alternative framing: we're buying a player from a rival who they Ordinarily wouldn't sell, who significantly raises the floor of the squad and gives us a genuine alternative to Joelinton.

 

Completely agree with the injury concerns like.

 

 

Edited August 12, 2025 by The Prophet

[Joelinton7]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Have to say it's very weird that we're constantly saying he's the same as Willock. Why is this? They just play a similar position. 

Fairly quick ball carriers. Don’t score or assist a lot. Very injury prone (this is the main bit).

[oldtype]

I trust the club's ability to identify targets enough that if we are buying him, I'll assume there's a good reason.

 

I trust the club's ability to negotiate prices maybe a little bit less  but oh well. If he comes in and contributes it doesn't really matter.

[Joelinton7]

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Alternative framing: we're buying a player from a rival who they Ordinarily wouldn't sell, who significantly raises the floor of the squad and gives us s genuine alternative to Joelinton.

 

Completely agree with the injury concerns like.

If he’s capable of doing big Joe’s role then it may be ok but it’s a big demand for someone with 1000 hamstring injuries in the last 4 years.

[Mazzy]

Just now, Displayname said:

Just a little bit sceptical if our midfield would be tough enough on that second choice line-up..

 

It wouldn't be, that's why we need one more really. But Ramsey certainly helps.

 

I'm reality there's probably no occasion that the "second choice" midfield all play together at the same time other than cup game against League One/Two teams. 

[SteV]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Have to say it's very weird that we're constantly saying he's the same as Willock. Why is this? They just play a similar position. 

[gdm]

10 minutes ago, Scoot said:

General opinion is, if he can stay fit, hes a good player. A few saying they fear he'll kick on at Newcastle.

 

https://www.villatalk.com/topic/18405-jacob-ramsey/page/429/#comments

On there is like on here very mixed reaction some gutted and some not bothered and saying he won’t improve us

[The Prophet]

Just now, Joelinton7 said:

If he’s capable of doing big Joe’s role then it may be ok but it’s a big demand for someone with 1000 hamstring injuries in the last 4 years.

 

He'll do Willock's previous role.

[oldtype]

2 minutes ago, Joelinton7 said:

Fairly quick ball carriers. Don’t score or assist a lot. Very injury prone (this is the main bit).

 

Seems like folks at the club believe that injuries are down to luck as long as it's not an obvious chronic condition, so players with an "injury prone" reputation are typically undervalued.

 

I agree that makes sense on paper, but it does feel like tempting fate a bit.

 

 

Edited August 12, 2025 by oldtype

[Kid Icarus]

Very hard to find recent highlights of him 

[Wolfcastle]

Not enamoured, strengthens the squad, not sure it will improve us but then were not allowed to improve anyway

but £40m 

 

[Shadow Puppets]

Really good player. Obvious question marks over his fitness, but if that can be managed and he can stay fit he’s a cracking player.

 

Sits firmly in the bracket of “buying the dip”. Quality wise, a consistently fit Ramsay is more than £40m in today’s market (when you compare with some of the dross that’s going for that kind of price currently), so getting him in now with the hope of keeping him fit could leave us with a really good player on our hands.

[geordie_b]

Wasn’t a fan of this deal (for a number of reasons) but that price is way higher than even I was expecting. Cant wait to be proved wrong…