Jacob Ramsey

[Yorkie]

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

[Shadow Puppets]

Also, don’t be surprised if we also go for another midfielder… I know they’re looking for more than one.

[Infinitely Content]

I was a huge admirer of Ramsey back when he broke into the Villa team in c.2022 and became a first team regular. Technically brilliant, high energy and I remember him scoring some wonderful goals. A huge upgrade on both Willock & Longstaff as the 4th midfielder.

I also wasn't too sold on these El Khannouss rumours, he was mostly played in left attacking midfield positions for Leicester and I don't see how a player of his stature and profile fits into our midfield 3 which requires a really well balanced, disciplined player to make it function. I believe Ramsey will be able fit in seamlessly whilst also offering something unique that none of our current starting 3 can.

[Disco]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

Villa just spent some cash they may need to recoup on?

[gdm]

1 minute ago, Wolfcastle said:

Not enamoured, strengthens the squad, not sure it will improve us but then were not allowed to improve anyway

but £40m 

 

They reckon £40m package I’ll guess it’s around £30m with add ons 

[oldtype]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

 

Could be the Willock injury forcing us to be more aggressive with CM signings. We might just be done with him.

[RobsonsWonderland]

Ok for perspective...

 

Longstaff .... Ramsey 

Miggy... Elanga 

Dubs...Ramsdale

Kelly... Thiaw

 

Wilson... Wissa?

 

We might not be improving the first 11 but the squad as a whole.

 

Obvs there is a massive gap at the top.

 

[Displayname]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

Come to the conclusion that Isak is outta here would be my guess.

[Rich]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

Some social posts have said we’d hoped to do a deal early but Villa got round PSR by selling the women’s team. Seems he’s been the top target from the outset. Unsure as to why it’s then took this long to manifest, unless they’re expecting more PSR headaches this year.

[Minhosa]

IF we keep him fit, Eddie gets him in the England squad. 

[Danh1]

Just now, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

If I had to guess I’d say it’s that we expected to capitalise on Villa needing to sell for PSR. I’m sure how mentioned how we’d be looking to be the ones benefitting this summer.

 

They got themselves out of the hole, but now possibly need funds to do some deals between now and September, so have reluctantly agreed to deal.

[Chris_R]

8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Targett's an OK player and 156m is basically nothing. 

 

Basically nothing? His pay is just getting out of hand IMO.

[JT24]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Also, don’t be surprised if we also go for another midfielder… I know they’re looking for more than one.

One from Ajax, perhaps?

[Menace]

If someone offered us £40m for Willock we'd piss ourselves. This is poor.

[Smal]

7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

Have to say it's very weird that we're constantly saying he's the same as Willock. Why is this? They just play a similar position. 

it’s not weird, they are similar players. Advanced midfielders who can score goals and carry the ball well, but aren’t generally involved build up much at all.

 

If we go to the last season where both players  played over 2000 minutes in the league for a decent representation, guess who was the most similar player to Joe Willock across eleventy hundred different metrics?

 

[Kimbo]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

What's the theory for why we're signing this guy now then, given he's seemingly been available all summer and the first links were in May? Must be a reason for why we'd only pull the trigger at this late stage; especially with Longstaff having been gone nearly a month. Uncertainty over how much we'd be spending on a striker, or something else? 

Villa have been trying to get him to sign a new contract, so they don’t seem to be willing sellers. Maybe we were waiting for them to accept he’s not signing.

[Disco]

2 minutes ago, Rich said:

Some social posts have said we’d hoped to do a deal early but Villa got round PSR by selling the women’s team. Seems he’s been the top target from the outset. Unsure as to why it’s then took this long to manifest, unless they’re expecting more PSR headaches this year.

In a rare non shit move UEFA don’t count any of that wank in their PSR stuff so might affect them that way. Already been fined once.

 

Might have called Unai a greasy cunt and spat in his wet look?

 

Who knows?

[duo]

21 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

This isn't great, but the amount of games he's missed overall isn't horrific.

 

It's impacted his development over the last couple of years.  But I suppose if anyone can get it back on track it is Eddie. 

[Big River]

we've been after him for a while. Ornstein said we made an approach in Jan '24 (source)

[Yorkie]

5 minutes ago, Disco said:

Villa just spent some cash they may need to recoup on?

 

4 minutes ago, oldtype said:

 

Could be the Willock injury forcing us to be more aggressive with CM signings. We might just be done with him.

 

4 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Come to the conclusion that Isak is outta here would be my guess.

 

4 minutes ago, Rich said:

Some social posts have said we’d hoped to do a deal early but Villa got round PSR by selling the women’s team. Seems he’s been the top target from the outset. Unsure as to why it’s then took this long to manifest, unless they’re expecting more PSR headaches this year.

 

4 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

If I had to guess I’d say it’s that we expected to capitalise on Villa needing to sell for PSR. I’m sure how mentioned how we’d be looking to be the ones benefitting this summer.

 

They got themselves out of the hole, but now possibly need funds to do some deals between now and September, so have reluctantly agreed to deal.

 

2 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

Villa have been trying to get him to sign a new contract, so they don’t seem to be willing sellers. Maybe we were waiting for them to accept he’s not signing.

 

Nice one, lads! We were looking for 'because we're a shambles,' but thanks for playing.

 

Now that I'm done being a cunt; Villa not being as pressed to sell earlier I guess makes the most sense.

 

Like Thiaw, feel really enthused by him being a long-term target. Cathartic as fuck to see us make some progress.

[Shak]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Also, don’t be surprised if we also go for another midfielder… I know they’re looking for more than one.

It will be interesting to see what type of midfielder they bring in if there is another one.

 

Between Joelinton and Ramsey you’d think that’s the LCM role kind of covered.

 

So that leaves us with Bruno, Tonali and Miley for the other two spots. I still don’t know where they see Miley’s best spot long term, I personally feel he could be an excellent Tonali understudy as the base of a midfield but I can see the argument for him playing further up too. The other midfielder being a more advanced creative type might point to Miley being seen as the Sandro backup.

[Rich]

It’s exactly the sort of signing we should be making, just like Thiaw, and it’s another player seemingly very keen to come.

[Rich]

1 minute ago, Shak said:

It will be interesting to see what type of midfielder they bring in if there is another one.

 

Between Joelinton and Ramsey you’d think that’s the LCM role kind of covered.

 

So that leaves us with Bruno, Tonali and Miley for the other two spots. I still don’t know where they see Miley’s best spot long term, I personally feel he could be an excellent Tonali understudy as the base of a midfield but I can see the argument for him playing further up too. The other midfielder being a more advanced creative type might point to Miley being seen as the Sandro backup.

I don’t want to be the one to say it, but we need…

 

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[JT24]

Andy Howe when Steve finally got back to the office. 

[gdm]

6 minutes ago, Menace said:

If someone offered us £40m for Willock we'd piss ourselves. This is poor.

Don’t be negative now