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Just now, Toon1984 said:

We have folk complaining that the cartel can spend what they want and, the next minute, complaining that we’re overspending on a player.

 

Stop typing and think for a minute.

not sure why both thoughts cannot exist together. 

 

Forgetting about the cartel, you would hope regardless of Isak a pot of money was set aside from any transfer budget we had this summer on a wilson replacement, cheap options havent happened so this may have changed our thoughts especially this late in the window. 

 

However like it or not we dont have the income of others and most of our players need to land in terms of success we cant do a Manu and have a player fail and just replace them, if the 55/60/65m doesnt work it will screw us for multiple windows so does have a major risk attached to it (like any transfer would) . I can see why people would be worried about such a large outlay for a player who is no longer a youngster and had 1 season in the prem. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

not sure why both thoughts cannot exist together. 

 

Forgetting about the cartel, you would hope regardless of Isak a pot of money was set aside from any transfer budget we had this summer on a wilson replacement, cheap options havent happened so this may have changed our thoughts especially this late in the window. 

 

However like it or not we dont have the income of others and most of our players need to land in terms of success we cant do a Manu and have a player fail and just replace them, if the 55/60/65m doesnt work it will screw us for multiple windows so does have a major risk attached to it (like any transfer would) . I can see why people would be worried about such a large outlay for a player who is no longer a youngster and had 1 season in the prem. 

 

 

I agree but the fact that some clubs can pay to the skies means that the price of all transfers has increased a lot.

If we don’t pay, we won’t get. It’s wrong but that’s the way it is.

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38 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, just think Jackson is the most similar profile to Isak we can get. Obviously he’s nowhere near as good.

 

Genuinely don't think we should be looking at Isak's profile when signing a new striker tbh. Isak was effective for us in spite of his profile, not as a result of it, in my opinion. He often struggles (struggled?) to get into games in our system, he just has the ability to deliver critical moments regardless. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Genuinely don't think we should be looking at Isak's profile when signing a new striker tbh. Isak was effective for us in spite of his profile, not as a result of it, in my opinion. He often struggles (struggled?) to get into games in our system, he just has the ability to deliver critical moments regardless. 

Tend to agree with this. He has magic boots and a cunt of a finish, but he can’t sustain the press, and quite often doesn’t get us up the pitch and out of the opponents press. He’s also not up to a season of Howe-ball physically.

 

edit - and yet still the best CF we’ve had since Shearer

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Genuinely don't think we should be looking at Isak's profile when signing a new striker tbh. Isak was effective for us in spite of his profile, not as a result of it, in my opinion. He often struggles (struggled?) to get into games in our system, he just has the ability to deliver critical moments regardless. 

Disagree. Having pace and mobility is crucial for the Howe system. Isak and Wilson succeeded where Wood failed

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Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

Wood failed because of his finishing though, he was a great target to hit and pressed well.

 

Isak is great to hit if you can find his feet and he has bodies around him, but he's a poor target man.

Don't remember him getting loads of chances.

 

Could be wrong. It always seemed an awkward fit for us.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

Wood failed because of his finishing though, he was a great target to hit and pressed well.

 

Isak is great to hit if you can find his feet and he has bodies around him, but he's a poor target man.

Saddest thing is that, after he left us, Wood has become by far the most clinical finisher in the league. I’d have him back in a heartbeat.

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12 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

Genuinely don't think we should be looking at Isak's profile when signing a new striker tbh. Isak was effective for us in spite of his profile, not as a result of it, in my opinion. He often struggles (struggled?) to get into games in our system, he just has the ability to deliver critical moments regardless. 

Aye, very fair point.

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1 minute ago, Emotic said:

Saddest thing is that, after he left us, Wood has become by far the most clinical finisher in the league. I’d have him back in a heartbeat.

I'm just wondering why he became so prolific bearing in mind I understand he was that brilliant elsewhere .

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33 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

not sure why both thoughts cannot exist together. 

 

Forgetting about the cartel, you would hope regardless of Isak a pot of money was set aside from any transfer budget we had this summer on a wilson replacement, cheap options havent happened so this may have changed our thoughts especially this late in the window. 

 

However like it or not we dont have the income of others and most of our players need to land in terms of success we cant do a Manu and have a player fail and just replace them, if the 55/60/65m doesnt work it will screw us for multiple windows so does have a major risk attached to it (like any transfer would) . I can see why people would be worried about such a large outlay for a player who is no longer a youngster and had 1 season in the prem. 

 

 

We have saved money on every signing we've made apart from maybe Ramsey. We didn't spend big on a goalie, the defender was cheaper so we should have a bit of extra money to play with. 

 

Hurry up Brentford and sign this Max beer bloke,that opens the door for Wissa. 

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1 minute ago, Emotic said:

Saddest thing is that, after he left us, Wood has become by far the most clinical finisher in the league. I’d have him back in a heartbeat.

Yeah it was a really weird period he had with us, just one of those things that never worked out.

 

His timing and decision making is quality now, the run for the Anderson assist last week was ridiculous.

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1 minute ago, MagPar said:

We have saved money on every signing we've made apart from maybe Ramsey. We didn't spend big on a goalie, the defender was cheaper so we should have a bit of extra money to play with. 

 

Hurry up Brentford and sign this Max beer bloke,that opens the door for Wissa. 

Aye we've signed middling talents for decent money. Now we'll sign middling talents for a premium. That's not a great look.

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12 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Don't remember him getting loads of chances.

 

Could be wrong. It always seemed an awkward fit for us.

 

 

 

He missed a few sitters but there were times he would be around danger but would be a split second late making a move, finishing was the wrong word though, his ability to sniff out chances just seemed to have gone missing. Think it happened at Burnley but Nuno has found it again, he just looks a different forward nowadays.

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19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Disagree. Having pace and mobility is crucial for the Howe system. Isak and Wilson succeeded where Wood failed

 

We were a completely different team when Wood was here though, we rarely dominated and controlled games, and made far less chances than we do now, especially from crosses. 

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You know what else isn't a good look? going into the season without an isak or wilson replacement. 

 

Regardless of how we got to this position - and god knows you could waste years relitigating this window and proposing "if you had a time machine would you kill baby hitler or mitchell" hypotheticals - it's the one we find ourselves in and the one we need to fix FAST. 

 

Having our names on the "Didn't Pay Over The Odds 🏆 " cup will be scant relief to going out of the CL in group stages again and finishing 16th. 

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