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Isak stays, crawls back like a weasel as we need him and he won't want to sit out all/half the season,)in the meantime we unfortunately have to use osula, Gordon (when he's back), Barnes and Elanga. 

 

It's what I've expected for a while and still feel the same.

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8 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

I don't find this "very bad", no.

 

I'm still confident we sign at least one player, and if we don't we will reintegrate Isak and be slightly light in the forward position until January. 

 

I don't see a world where we sign no one and Isak leaves.

 

It's frustrating that we can't seem to get a striker deal done, of course it is, but there are clear and obvious reasons for that (a lot of which can be laid at the feet of a certain Swedish striker) before anyone else in my opinion.


You seem to see a world where we only sign one striker and sell Isak this window?…

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1 minute ago, Mattoon said:

I was hoping this or something, anything would be done for Leeds, now it looks like our striker search goes down to the wire and we go with Osula leading the line on Saturday

Its so poor I dont have words for it, but we cant finish the window without a striker, its not an option.

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8 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

We've attempted to sign Delap, Ekitike, Pedro, Sesko, Wissa and Strand Larsen (I still think one of those last two will happen).

 

The first 4 we were blown out of the water by "bigger" clubs, and most likely significant differences in wages offered.

 

The Isak situation has essentially paralysed us since mid July, because every single team we approach now knows a) we are desperate, and b) we will likely have money to spend... so every team (as is there right) is asking for crazy fees and/or need their own replacements.

 

It's frustrating, absolutely, but I struggle to see the "inexcusable" nature of it.

And we should have moved on from targets a lot faster instead of getting strung along. Totally misread our situation with a fatal lack of urgency.

Now here we are. 4 days until the window is closing and we don't have any striker that wants to play for us with a CL campain coming up. No amount of excuses can justify it imo.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, LFEE said:


You seem to see a world where we only sign one striker and sell Isak this window?…

 

Tbh Wilson was so useless last season that one in, one out (Isak) leaves us pretty much as we were in terms of numbers. Red card aside, Gordon demonstrated he's far more useful as a second choice striker than Wilson ever was. And that's before we get to the fact  Osula actually scored.

 

Replacing only one of Isak or Wilson is more of a missed (/denied) opportunity than it is a net loss. 

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11 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Tbh Wilson was so useless last season that one in, one out (Isak) leaves us pretty much as we were in terms of numbers. Red card aside, Gordon demonstrated he's far more useful as a second choice striker than Wilson ever was. And that's before we get to the fact  Osula actually scored.

 

Replacing only one of Isak or Wilson is more of a missed (/denied) opportunity than it is a net loss. 

Thats never been the deal though? Why’s everyone wanting to accommodate Isak and Liverpool?

 

Its 2 in for Isak to go?

 

Disagree with Gordon being better than Wilson centrally. Would’ve had him over AG both games TBH.

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1 minute ago, Harry 209 said:

does anyone know if there is a formal process of submitting bids which must be followed?

I would have though the protagonists would just hook up and decide whether the sale can be made or not. 


 

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12 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Thats never been the deal though? Why’s everyone wanting to accommodate Isak and Liverpool?

 

Its 2 in for Isak to go?

 

Disagree with Gordon being better than Wilson centrally. Would’ve had him over AG both games TBH.

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

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3 hours ago, Scoot said:

 

Its all coming up midtable finish and losing more players next summer due to the incompetence of this transfer window.

 

 

This is my biggest fear. Not just this season, but the knock-on effect it will have on future seasons.

 

This transfer window could set us back a number of years.

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1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

 

My preference would be: new striker, new striker, Isak/Gordon, with Osula spending a year on loan at Bradford or something. Obviously none of that is gonna happen now.

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3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

I think (and hope) that will be the case. 

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3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

We are having more games this season with CL. Isak played more than enough last year as it was.

 

And Gordon is so much better when coming in from the wing, even though he does a decent job upfront when he is inform.

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1 minute ago, Displayname said:
5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

We are having more games this season with CL. Isak played more than enough last year as it was.

 

That's why I said the last bit. :lol:

 

Basically all I'm saying is Gordon > Wilson, and there may be hope for him through the centre, on the basis of the first two games. While it wouldn't be ideal if he ends up second choice, it could be worse.

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6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

If Gordon ended up being Wilson replacement, surely we'd need a LW in then? As we are then just spreading ourselves thin in another position, where the drop off from Barnes to whoever (if Gordon was needed to lead the line due to an injury to Isak/whoever is his replacement).

 

Even if it was then logic of Ramsey/Willock filling LW, then we need another CM as we spread ourselves thin there. All has a knock on which needs addressing or we go into season severly light, which is already going to be tested 3 games into the season :D  Not even got to October/November where we will be fighting on 3 competition fronts every few days.

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9 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I'm just making a general observation around the 'need' to replace Wilson. We would be replacing next to nothing so if Gordon ends up as second choice, I don't think our backup is really any worse than it was last year. In fact I think there's evidence he can grow into the role and he said in his interview post-Villa that he always pictured himself moving centrally. Obviously if he's suspended it's a moot point. He was great on Monday; absolutely no way Wilson keeps up with that full throttle first 30.

 

My preference come September 2nd is that our strikeforce is: New Striker, Isak, Osula, (Gordon). 

Agree with your preference 100%
 

Regarding Gordon if what he give us on Monday is what makes the team function to its best then let’s spread the net further to attacking midfielders willing to press. 
 

Try and get goals by forcing mistakes rather than rely on our limited ability to create chances from central positions.

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51 minutes ago, Displayname said:

And we should have moved on from targets a lot faster instead of getting strung along. Totally misread our situation with a fatal lack of urgency.

Now here we are. 4 days until the window is closing and we don't have any striker that wants to play for us with a CL campain coming up. No amount of excuses can justify it imo.

 

 

 

Not only should we have moved on a lot quicker but it’s also a pretty obvious list so naturally we were going to be facing big competition. We need to get much smarter than this.

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