Ketsbaia Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Gutted at that quote. Seriously gutted. I know it doesn't necessarily mean anything will happen, but the wheels are in motion now, aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There was a newspaper story about Newcastle being interested in a Spanish left back player during the last transfer window (it may even be in this thread). I guess it could well have been true. If it's José Ángel, he's very promising but dunno if it's too early for him to move abroad. Hasn't had a full season as first choice yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" This, this, this. And as for selling Carroll, as I said, what difference would it have made not selling him. We'd still not be in the champions league, and we'd have even less money to invest to get close to a sniff of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'd love to know what's been going on behind the scenes lately. Ever since Hughton's sacking really, of course. It's funny how all our good guys become bad just as they leave the club lately, isn't it? Virtually a fully verifiable correlation between decency and contributing to all things wholesome, and leaving in toxic circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If our players would stay and Mike signed a monster cb to partner colo aswell as a decent striker(s) we coukd genuinky be a realy tasty side next season (onviosly with Ben Arfa joining back up, and potentialya rejuvinated Ireland). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" In fairness, I can't ever remember anyone on here (worth acknowledging) coming to that conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Duno wtf was happening with me keyboard there mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There was a newspaper story about Newcastle being interested in a Spanish left back player during the last transfer window (it may even be in this thread). I guess it could well have been true. If it's José Ángel, he's very promising but dunno if it's too early for him to move abroad. Hasn't had a full season as first choice yet. Yes it was. Found it: - http://uk.yahoo.eurosport.com/football/chat.shtml?chatid=7c24b3b76e This from Spanish pundit Guillem Balague: "Newcastle were thinking of signing Jose Angel from Sporting Gijon - a left-back who is only 21 and would be backup for Jose Enrique. He`d be a great backup as well." Never heard of him. Sure, if not too expensive that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If a good player like Enrique wants to play for a CL team then I wouldn't begrudge them at all. As long as they go about things in the right way and formally ask for a transfer, wait for permission to speak to other clubs and then make the move. He deserves to be playing at the highest level and if he doesn't want to stay then I've honestly not got a problem with that. I don't like it but I understand it. It's the nature of the beast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'm resigned to him going in the summer tbh. Don't want it to happen but as soon as the "he'll sign when we're safe" stuff started coming out it made me realise he's going to be away. Am also worried about the lack of Barton's contract extension too. It was reported as being just about sealed, and then Carroll was sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" I have to say, not one person has said that. A mention of Pardew possibly trying to up our eventual price for him, but why not - doesn't mean Enrique didn't initiate the deal, just that Pardew's sensibly been wanting to up our eventual price for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Who signed him? Was it Allardyce? Yeah... One of his rare successes at our club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Fair enough Man U or Arsenal etc but Villa and Liverpool?!?! The line 'I won't close the door on anyone' hardly screams of ambition either, it makes him sound hypocritical like he'd rather be anywhere than here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'd love to know what's been going on behind the scenes lately. Ever since Hughton's sacking really, of course. It's funny how all our good guys become bad just as they leave the club lately, isn't it? Virtually a fully verifiable correlation between decency and contributing to all things wholesome, and leaving in toxic circumstances. Who's saying Jose's a bad guy? It's a disappointing quote, and stupidly timed. Do you disagree? In this thread? No one just yet, but I was making an historical reference, so that doesn't relate. We've got another 4 months or so for this situation to curry following his 'gutting', 'cuntish' and 'disrespectful' comments, though, so it's fair to imagine he might join the list, don't you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I choose to blame the Spanish national team manager here rather than Enrique being greedy. He's easily good enough to make the Spain squad (at least get a few caps/runouts here and there), and with Euro 2012 drawing near it's a realistic aim in current form. But the fuckers in Spain seem to be ignoring him because they'd rather field whatever mediocre s*** left back they have pansying around in Spain flip-flopping all over the place at the slightest contact than a hard-as-nails, 6 foot, Maldini-esque beast of a fullback who when he goes forward makes Roberto Carlos look like Ameobi on stilts. It's a comical situation, mediocre nothing players like Arbeloa get into the Spanish side after a few dozen half-decent games because he's part of Rafa Benitez's homebois at Liverpool, yet Enrique tearing up the league for fun every other week doesn't so much as get a sniff. And we're going to lose one of our best players because some f***er in Spain can't be bothered to switch a telly on and watch a Newcastle game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There's definitely been something different in José's body language over the last few weeks, as a few people have mentioned during recent matches. Not too surprised to see that he's apparently feeling unsettled, really, although it's disappointing that he's gone public with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Definitely reads as if his head has been turned. I think the Carroll sale might have made some of our lot realise that they aren't going to push on to the next level at NUFC. I know it’s the nature of this club that it’s stop-start. As soon as we get something going players get sold and then we have to start again. Nobody will convince me that's not referring to Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" I have to say, not one person has said that. A mention of Pardew possibly trying to up our eventual price for him, but why not - doesn't mean Enrique didn't initiate the deal, just that Pardew's sensibly been wanting to up our eventual price for him. There are plenty people hinting at it, be it about the Twitter incident or the Carroll sale or him wanting more money or whathaveyou. When in reality, he simply wants CL football and wants to be at a bigger club. It sucks, but it's truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" I have to say, not one person has said that. A mention of Pardew possibly trying to up our eventual price for him, but why not - doesn't mean Enrique didn't initiate the deal, just that Pardew's sensibly been wanting to up our eventual price for him. There are plenty people hinting at it, be it about the Twitter incident or the Carroll sale or him wanting more money or whathaveyou. When in reality, he simply wants CL football and wants to be at a bigger club. It sucks, but it's truth. A lack of ambition from the club possibly plays a part in him feeling like that though. Hopefully we will invest well in the summer and Enrique and Barton will sign new deals. I can hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I choose to blame the Spanish national team manager here rather than Enrique being greedy. He's easily good enough to make the Spain squad (at least get a few caps/runouts here and there), and with Euro 2012 drawing near it's a realistic aim in current form. But the fuckers in Spain seem to be ignoring him because they'd rather field whatever mediocre s*** left back they have pansying around in Spain flip-flopping all over the place at the slightest contact than a hard-as-nails, 6 foot, Maldini-esque beast of a fullback who when he goes forward makes Roberto Carlos look like Ameobi on stilts. It's a comical situation, mediocre nothing players like Arbeloa get into the Spanish side after a few dozen half-decent games because he's part of Rafa Benitez's homebois at Liverpool, yet Enrique tearing up the league for fun every other week doesn't so much as get a sniff. And we're going to lose one of our best players because some f***er in Spain can't be bothered to switch a telly on and watch a Newcastle game. This is a very good point. In a similar vein, on late kick off they were saying it was the main reason why Bent went to Villa - Cappello just doesn't travel north of Birmingham. For the Spanish team, you might as well be ploughing your trade in Indonesia if you are not at one of the monster clubs outside of España. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I fear I'm automatically programmed to hate him when he leaves (as with past good players), when I really don't want to. In a world where Tiote and Ben Arfa exists, he's still my favourite player. Suppose it depends on which club it is, how much for and who we replace him with. This is awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 There should be plenty of clubs in for him, double figures at least coming our way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I'm okay with it. I like him and he's a fantastic player, but I don't love our players the same way I did before the whole Andy Carroll saga. I've just lost faith in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 It's amazing that a player can sit there and say "I want to play Champions League football, be at a big club like Man U" and people still go "Well it must be Ashley and Pardew wanting rid, it simply has to be. There's no other explanation" I have to say, not one person has said that. A mention of Pardew possibly trying to up our eventual price for him, but why not - doesn't mean Enrique didn't initiate the deal, just that Pardew's sensibly been wanting to up our eventual price for him. There are plenty people hinting at it, be it about the Twitter incident or the Carroll sale or him wanting more money or whathaveyou. When in reality, he simply wants CL football and wants to be at a bigger club. It sucks, but it's truth. A lack of ambition from the club possibly plays a part in him feeling like that though. Hopefully we will invest well in the summer and Enrique and Barton will sign new deals. I can hope. That's the thing though, I don't think we've shown a lack of ambition yet (although I expect us to). There is no lack of ambition in selling Carroll for £35m and any player in the squad that claims there is, is just looking for an excuse. The lack of ambition is not reinvesting the money. Which we haven't even had a chance to do yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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