Racism in football

[Matt]

What a spectacular tosser this Herbert feller is.

[Taylor Swift]

I do think Chelsea are afraid to report Clattenberg for fear of a backlash from other refs. This is definitely a factor in their decision making process.

 

The previous article made a lot of sense, imo. There might not be evidence of overt racism in the game but covertly it probably still exists.

[Taylor Swift]

The point about refs being recorded is also excellent. We see it in other sports. This would clear up a lot of issues and I think would help solve a lot of the abuse that players give to refs because the world would hear it.

[BlueStar]

The point about refs being recorded is also excellent. We see it in other sports. This would clear up a lot of issues and I think would help solve a lot of the abuse that players give to refs because the world would hear it.

 

Pretty much why they won't do it. Remember what happened last time Rooney got too close to a mic on the pitch? You'd have players Fing and blinding on TV at 2pm on a Sunday, you'd have awkward questions about why big team's players weren't getting booked and sent off and I think footballers are too thick and entitled to learn to speak to the ref like rugby players even after repeated punishment. Plus a load of ex-pros will write op eds about how it's a man's sport and swearing is part of the game.

[Tooj]

That Herbert is such an arsehole.

[Dave]

On Tuesday, the police investigation was discontinued because "no victims have come forward" and "without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated".

 

I hope someone receives a bill for the cost of police time wasted on this farce. Oh wait, we already did.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

What a spectacular tosser this Herbert feller is.

 

That Herbert is such an arsehole.

 

He's done some brilliant work in his career, but he's blatantly latching onto the couple of recent incidents in football to further his own agenda. Pretty poor really.

[leffe186]

The point about refs being recorded is also excellent. We see it in other sports. This would clear up a lot of issues and I think would help solve a lot of the abuse that players give to refs because the world would hear it.

 

Pretty much why they won't do it. Remember what happened last time Rooney got too close to a mic on the pitch? You'd have players Fing and blinding on TV at 2pm on a Sunday, you'd have awkward questions about why big team's players weren't getting booked and sent off and I think footballers are too thick and entitled to learn to speak to the ref like rugby players even after repeated punishment. Plus a load of ex-pros will write op eds about how it's a man's sport and swearing is part of the game.

 

It was horrific when they last tried it (early 90s, wasn't it?) - the abuse was extraordinary. TBH, I'd be happy for them to try it again. You don't need to broadcast it live at first, but eventually it could become like rugby. We're talking about grown men here, they should be able to rein themselves in.

[loki679]

The point about refs being recorded is also excellent. We see it in other sports. This would clear up a lot of issues and I think would help solve a lot of the abuse that players give to refs because the world would hear it.

 

Pretty much why they won't do it. Remember what happened last time Rooney got too close to a mic on the pitch? You'd have players Fing and blinding on TV at 2pm on a Sunday, you'd have awkward questions about why big team's players weren't getting booked and sent off and I think footballers are too thick and entitled to learn to speak to the ref like rugby players even after repeated punishment. Plus a load of ex-pros will write op eds about how it's a man's sport and swearing is part of the game.

 

It was horrific when they last tried it (early 90s, wasn't it?) - the abuse was extraordinary. TBH, I'd be happy for them to try it again. You don't need to broadcast it live at first, but eventually it could become like rugby. We're talking about grown men here, they should be able to rein themselves in.

 

No, we're talking about footballers.  You know, those thick, pampered twats who think the sun shines out of their collective behind.

[jdckelly]

bit media hungry this Herbert fella

[Heron]

Swearing is part of the game to be fair. However, when talking to referees it should be stamped out. I'm sure rugby players swear just not when talking to the referee.

[jdckelly]

David Bond ‏@DavidBondBBC

FA has decided NOT to bring disciplinary charges against Mark Clattenburg following allegations of inappropriate language made by Chelsea.

[Stifler]

David Bond ‏@DavidBondBBC

FA has decided NOT to bring disciplinary charges against Mark Clattenburg following allegations of inappropriate language made by Chelsea.

Now it's time to bring charges against Chelsea for bring the game and an official into disrepute.

[jdckelly]

related

 

Chelsea’s John Obi Mikel has been charged by The FA for an alleged breach of FA Rule E3 in relation to his side’s game against Manchester United on 28 October 2012.

 

It is alleged that in or around the Match Officials’ changing room at the end of the fixture, Mikel used threatening and/or abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour.

 

The player has until Friday 30 November 2012 to respond to the charge.

 

http://www.thefa.com/News/governance/2012/nov/john-obi-mikel-charged.aspx

[cp40]

David Bond ‏@DavidBondBBC

FA has decided NOT to bring disciplinary charges against Mark Clattenburg following allegations of inappropriate language made by Chelsea.

Now it's time to bring charges against Chelsea for bring the game and an official into disrepute.

[Ameritoon]

I wasn't quick to criticize Chelsea, but man what a bunch of cunts.

[Disco]

Tom Adams ‏@tomEurosport

Key passage from statement:"The player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA." Shouldn't vilify Chelsea. Genuine mistake.

 

Sam Wallace ‏@SamWallaceIndy

FA say accusation by Ramires against Clattenburg 'made in good faith' but no charge. Initial feeling is judgement not too damaging for CFC

[jdckelly]

Tom Adams ‏@tomEurosport

Key passage from statement:"The player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA." Shouldn't vilify Chelsea. Genuine mistake.

 

Sam Wallace ‏@SamWallaceIndy

FA say accusation by Ramires against Clattenburg 'made in good faith' but no charge. Initial feeling is judgement not too damaging for CFC

while I agree with that in principle why in gods name did they announce it to every man and his dog shouting it to whomever cared to listen

[matta]

The time is right for a respect the refree campaign.

 

 

About time grown adults manage to shut up to the match leader.

[Disco]

Tom Adams ‏@tomEurosport

Key passage from statement:"The player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA." Shouldn't vilify Chelsea. Genuine mistake.

 

Sam Wallace ‏@SamWallaceIndy

FA say accusation by Ramires against Clattenburg 'made in good faith' but no charge. Initial feeling is judgement not too damaging for CFC

while I agree with that in principle why in gods name did they announce it to every man and his dog shouting it to whomever cared to listen

 

Did they or did they just release a pretty run of the mill statement?

[Crumpy Gunt]

Tom Adams ‏@tomEurosport

Key passage from statement:"The player and club were correct in reporting the matter to The FA." Shouldn't vilify Chelsea. Genuine mistake.

 

Sam Wallace ‏@SamWallaceIndy

FA say accusation by Ramires against Clattenburg 'made in good faith' but no charge. Initial feeling is judgement not too damaging for CFC

while I agree with that in principle why in gods name did they announce it to every man and his dog shouting it to whomever cared to listen

Because they'd just been well and truly humped live on TV with two players sent off.

 

Fergie does it as well but never in a an 'open' a manner as Chelsea tried it. Stinks of bad loser-itis. Clattenburg will not se Chelsea on his rota for a long while yet. The FA should have him there next week but wont have the bottle.

[Disco]

Sam Wallace ‏@SamWallaceIndy

PGMOL to introduce recording of referees & assistants' headset communications during matches in light of Clattenburg episode.

 

 

Good idea and will speed up the whole process should it rear it's head again

[Jack Flash]

The time is right for a respect the refree campaign.

 

 

About time grown adults manage to shut up to the match leader.

 

They tried that a while ago but the referees were, in general, so inept it got swept under the carpet. It simply won't work while they're basically inviting criticism with their performances.

[Guest malandro]

Why should CFC get away with falsely accusing somebody of being a racist?

 

At the very least a grovelling apology and full disclosure of their 'evidence' is needed.

 

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

STATEMENT ON CLATTENBURG DECISION

Posted on: Thu 22 Nov 2012

 

Chelsea Football Club accepts the Football Association's decision regarding Mark Clattenburg and welcomes the fact that the FA recognises the club and players were correct in reporting the matter.

 

The FA states Chelsea took the correct action following the Manchester United match and encourages all players who believe they have been either subject, or witness, to discriminatory abuse to report the matter immediately to the match officials on the day, and in turn to the FA.

 

The club also notes the charge brought against John Mikel Obi. While the player does not deny the charge, he will request a personal hearing to explain the mitigating circumstances.

 

With regards to the Mark Clattenburg decision, the club accepts the case is now concluded and notes the FA states the allegation was made in good faith.

 

Chelsea FC cooperated fully with the FA and provided 11 witness statements covering all events during and after the Premier League game on October 28.

 

Chelsea FC has a duty of care, as do all employers, to act responsibly when such allegations are reported by employees. We did not take the decision to lodge a formal complaint with the FA lightly and followed the correct processes and protocols throughout. The club carried out a thorough investigation, led by outside legal counsel, using all information available to us. As the FA makes clear, it is not uncommon for investigations to lead to no disciplinary charge being brought.

 

All those directly involved have been subjected to scrutiny over the last weeks. Chelsea FC now hopes that all concerned can continue to carry out their duties without prejudice.

 

We are committed to working alongside all referees and their assistants to ensure games are conducted in the right spirit and that all our players and staff accept and observe the match officials' authority and decisions.

 

No apology anywhere to Clattenburg.