Racism in football

[Tiresias]

Spanish League: we are struggling financially cos we it's not fair we can't sell international broadcast rights for anything close to premier league level

Also Spanish League: Lol racism's no biggie

[Shak]

Little bit surprised that Bellingham hasn't been put off joining Madrid with all of this going on tbh.

[Guest]

Tebas is a far right lunatic 

[54]

https://twitter.com/PhilKitro/status/1663464327884464128?t=veadZlCQdev9zGHvXhba8w&s=19

[BlueStar]

 

[Haz]

I remember when Clyde Best, West Ham was for a time, the only black lad in the 1st Division.  He was given dogs abuse; things thrown at him and even posters displayed that nowadays would get you a lifetime ban. Sadly, his own fans would shout horrendous things at him. 
 

But nobody said a word. Nothing was condemned; no one brought to book. I’d like to think we have listened to “Our better Angels” but sometimes I wonder. 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Haz said:

I remember when Clyde Best, West Ham was for a time, the only black lad in the 1st Division.  He was given dogs abuse; things thrown at him and even posters displayed that nowadays would get you a lifetime ban. Sadly, his own fans would shout horrendous things at him. 
 

But nobody said a word. Nothing was condemned; no one brought to book. I’d like to think we have listened to “Our better Angels” but sometimes I wonder. 

Some parts will be a reduction in racist attitudes in the general population, some parts will be ‘frown power’ and the removal of any sense of social respectability of holding / saying those views.

 

Which is of course the primary whinge of the ‘you can’t say anything these days’ brigade.  Every time I’ve pressed someone saying that to tell me what can’t be said, there never seems to be a firm answer.  Odd that.  

 

 

Edited June 6, 2023 by TheBrownBottle

[GideonShandy]

On 02/06/2023 at 08:07, BlueStar said:

 

Weren't Fati, Balde and Messi three of Snow White's Seven Dwarfs?

[huss9]

"Brazil and Real Madrid star Vinicius Jr. has been tasked with leading a special player-run Fifa anti-racism committee. The committee will look to advocate for more stringent punishments for any displays of racism within football, a long overdue need."

 

maybe its because i'm not white, but i just find this a bit puzzling.

shouldnt be up to the black players to sit on or head such a committee.

 

both the problem and the solution lie within the white community. they are the ones who should be leading this.

dont be putting the onus on the black players and then blaming them if people dont agree with the punishments meted out.

 

just reeks of fifa saying, "look we're trying our best but we'll leave it up to them"

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2023 by huss9

[TheBrownBottle]

32 minutes ago, huss9 said:

"Brazil and Real Madrid star Vinicius Jr. has been tasked with leading a special player-run Fifa anti-racism committee. The committee will look to advocate for more stringent punishments for any displays of racism within football, a long overdue need."

 

maybe its because i'm not white, but i just find this a bit puzzling.

shouldnt be up to the black players to sit on or head such a committee.

 

both the problem and the solution lie within the white community. they are the ones who should be leading this.

dont be putting the onus on the black players and then blaming them if people dont agree with the punishments meted out.

 

just reeks of fifa saying, "look we're trying our best but we'll leave it up to them"

 

 

 

 

 

I completely agree that racism towards black players or people generally is not a ‘black people problem’, but it is a problem if white people are the ones who determine what is and is not racism.  Just take a look at the reaction in Spain re what happened to Vini Jr and you have to ask what the reaction of those journalists would be if they weren’t white

[BlueStar]

 

[Teslact]

Enzo Fernandez: Kick It Out ask questions of Fifa and Conmebol over alleged racist video - BBC Sport

 

Good that Kick It Out are not letting it be swept under the rug because of jurisdiction (when Bentancur did serve 7 games).

 

[r0cafella]

10 hours ago, Teslact said:

Enzo Fernandez: Kick It Out ask questions of Fifa and Conmebol over alleged racist video - BBC Sport

 

Good that Kick It Out are not letting it be swept under the rug because of jurisdiction (when Bentancur did serve 7 games).

 

Funny how jurisdiction didn't mean anything when Tonali got his ban. 

[Heron]

On 22/05/2023 at 09:59, huss9 said:

Writing on Twitter, La Liga president Javier Tebas said Vinicius twice did not turn up for a meeting to discuss what it "can do in cases of racism".

"Before you criticise and slander La Liga you need to inform yourself properly," Tebas said.

Madness this.

[Rafalove]

Talking about Craig Hope, isn’t he?

[Stifler]

I mean people are a bit pissed off at his parents going into clubs and dictating what’s going to happen and that their children should be undroppable. I think the questions regarding his attitude comes from that then anything else.

[Dr Venkman]

I’ve always been really non-plussed about negativity towards Bellingham. He’s an incredible player with loads of confidence. He’s great to watch and a great role model, gives absolutely everything on the pitch. 

[huss9]

yeah. not getting the racist vibes.

he's not the only non white (dont know what the politically correct term is nowadays) player on the team.

 

[Mike]

If the black English are telling you that it feels racist then listen to them.

 

It sounds like you lot never had your Muhammad Ali.

[The Butcher]

Think it's more that he comes across as a total cunt on the pitch. Arrogant and smug. Proper dislikeable imo. 

 

Just like Ronaldo and Bruno Fernandes.

 

 

[Kanj]

Oof, Hope needs to chill on the Jude stuff asap. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Can’t say if it applies to everyone who criticises Bellingham but I definitely agree that the theme Wright identifies there probably exists. 
 

Back when I was growing up it was more a thing to just say black players were athletic or didn’t have a good footballing brain.

 

 

[Turnbull2000]

Like the majority here, originally thought we were blessed to have such a player and character, but now struggle to see past him being an arrogant, sometimes nasty, petulant twat. It just doesn't go down well in British culture.

[Dr.Spaceman]

Wright is spot on.

 

Playing for Real Madrid doesn't help his cause. Cunt club full of cunt players of all backgrounds for what's felt like a while now.

[simonsays]

Confidence is one thing, but arrogance is an unnatractive trait no matter what the colour of your skin.  I'm sure there are some who are down on him because of his race, but i think the majority see a player who thinks he is bigger than the team and base their judgement of him on that.