Guest neesy111 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dokko said: It’s a 100% a society problem, with footballers being high profile targets usually by kids/teens who are trolling without any fear of consequences. There’s a lot of it atm probably because they are bored. Until your identity is recorded by SM platforms then it will continue, it’s up to the platforms to make them less anon and account more accountable for their posts. Even education isn’t going to resolve it unless this is done. The kids doing it IRL wouldn’t be like this, wouldn’t hold these views but turn in to something else when they can say something without any implications coming their way. Take that mask of secrecy from them and the government imposing greater consequences for racial abuse in the online world and then it drops and where an education drive might be successful. Guess I’m saying you need both for this to work. I can't believe kids under 16 are allowed SM profiles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dokko said: I’d be happy with that. It’s always a knobhead shouting freedom of speech like it gives them the right to be a cunt for the sake of it. It would however mean that people as likeable as Tom Werner and Joel Glazer have complete control over what can and can’t be said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Candi_Hills said: It would however mean that people as likeable as Tom Werner and Joel Glazer have complete control over what can and can’t be said. How? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Dokko said: How? It’s very difficult to be a dissenting voice on social media as it is. You don’t have to breach the terms of service to receive a ban. However, as long as one stays on the right side of the law, then there’s usually no threat of further punishment. You signed up, got banned and slipped away all anonymously. With the option of anonymity removed, everybody would be held “publicly accountable” for what they say. And when I say publicly accountable, I mean that they would be subject to artificially designed public pressure. Public outrage is controlled and manipulated to serve power. Always. Social movements can be broken down into three types: 1. Genuine grassroots movements which are then co-opted by the system for their own ends. 2. Genuine grassroots movements which the system works tirelessly to suppress. 3. Astroturfed movements, set up by the system to look like grassroots movements. In other words, there is no room for dissent on social media or media in general. Any social movement which has media momentum was either set up by the system to serve the system or has been co-opted by it. ID registration just makes everything easier to manage. Edited April 25, 2021 by Candi_Hills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) Football is going to boycott it's biggest marketing tool. For a weekend. Good for them. I love the fact MOTD announced it just before our game, with Lineker adding "and other people involved in the game" Edited April 25, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Candi_Hills said: It’s very difficult to be a dissenting voice on social media as it is. You don’t have to breach the terms of service to receive a ban. However, as long as one stays on the right side of the law, then there’s usually no threat of further punishment. You signed up, got banned and slipped away all anonymously. With the option of anonymity removed, everybody would be held “publicly accountable” for what they say. And when I say publicly accountable, I mean that they would be subject to artificially designed public pressure. Public outrage is controlled and manipulated to serve power. Always. Social movements can be broken down into three types: 1. Genuine grassroots movements which are then co-opted by the system for their own ends. 2. Genuine grassroots movements which the system works tirelessly to suppress. 3. Astroturfed movements, set up by the system to look like grassroots movements. In other words, there is no room for dissent on social media or media in general. Any social movement which has media momentum was either set up by the system to serve the system or has been co-opted by it. ID registration just makes everything easier to manage. ID registration doesn’t stop social movement, in fact it could help as you don’t get the bots signed up to try and steer public opinion. That has more sway than any genuine movement which if worthy will pick up traction and spread anyway. You’d not have brexit for example, trump probably wouldn’t have won the presidency. World events which changed the current landscape for generations. It’s time for the world to stop hiding behind their digital mask and show themselves. We’ve abused the privilege for far too long. Let’s see who they are and see if their rabid opinions and bullshit still flies. My guess is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candi_Hills Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, Dokko said: ID registration doesn’t stop social movement, in fact it could help as you don’t get the bots signed up to try and steer public opinion. That has more sway than any genuine movement which if worthy will pick up traction and spread anyway. You’d not have brexit for example, trump probably wouldn’t have won the presidency. World events which changed the current landscape for generations. It’s time for the world to stop hiding behind their digital mask and show themselves. We’ve abused the privilege for far too long. Let’s see who they are and see if their rabid opinions and bullshit still flies. My guess is not. Genuine movements which pose a threat to power are either co-opted or squashed. Twitter and the media is the system. The billionaires who own these platforms are not going to let any prole resistance take off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Jens Lehmann has self cancelled himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Disco said: Jens Lehmann has self cancelled himself. "The 51-year-old sent a WhatsApp message to Aogo, asking: “Is Dennis actually your Quotenschwarzer (token black guy)?” The Germans have a word for everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Absolute catalogue of errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Wonder who he meant to send it to? Presumably someone who would have bene fine with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Think it was supposed to go to someone else at German Sky where they both work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I'm guessing he wasn't meant to text him calling him the token black guy, like. Harsh to just make it immediately public, but also "unfortunately phrased" and "didn't mean it that way" dont really fly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Lehmann has always been an absolute whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Used to like his shenanigans with Drogba. Was always good value. He's got a new fanclub on RTG now if nowt else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I'm probably way off the mark, but just going back to that Jim Beglin quote, does this mean things like, "Gaelic flair" when it comes to describing an exciting French footballer, "typical German efficiency" when it comes to describing a well drilled Germany performance, etc are also now frowned upon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Latino temperament man is not fucking racist, world of soft cunts... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, HTT II said: Latino temperament man is not fucking racist, world of soft cunts... It's extremely offending and I think Disco should be permanently banned from this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Flip said: It's extremely offending and I think Disco should be permanently banned from this forum. But it’s that brilliant Latino temperament that brought us Brazil 1-7 Germany, or was it the German efficiency/Nazi killer instinct! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Hmm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 thats not real?!!! surely! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, huss9 said: thats not real?!!! surely! It's the verified account of KFC Spain. Although apparently that stereotype isn't really a thing there? Although I struggle to believe any Internet savvy social media manager hasn't encountered it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Manchester United forward Marcus Rashford said he received "at least 70 racial slurs" on social media following Wednesday's Europa League final loss to Villarreal. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57263805 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Horrific, but I assume that happens to every black player after nearly every match. It’s good that it’s getting reported now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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