steve_69 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 The biggest concern is surely Derek 'midas touch' Wright. Fucking charleton!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Mourinho kept the English assistant. Moyes get rid of Fergi stuff and he paid for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hoping he brings Steve Round back here and Steele. Would be a huge improvement on what we have. Not sure about Paul Simpson. Would rather Clark than Stone or Carver. I'd think he would only come in if the other two departed. Would rather have none of them. They're all ass-kissing failures who believe they're entitled to work here because they're good Jawdie lads. Me too on both Account Dont need Clark, Stone and Carver them Geordie stoogs. His coaching team at Derby are light years a head of us. If he doesn't bring his own staff to work with him I won't be giving him the time of day. It will only prove that Ashley's penny pinching is set to continue and the interview he gave was yet more lies. I really don't think additional proof is necessary like No but it will underline the policy pretty clearly. No coach who serious about the job would come without bringing his own staff. true - but there is often a few staff from the previous regime kept around because they know the club and the players, admittedly not many as inept as the clowns we employ. As long as he brings in his own key staff i can live with Carver and Stone being retained for cone duties. Not Woodman though - not sure what it is about him but i can't even look at him without gretting annoyed. Yeah I said earlier in this thread that there is enough menial jobs that can be passed around to the current coaching team, we are run on a skeleton staff as it is so there should be no problem with McClaren bringing in at least a couple of key coaches from Derby. It would be a show of intent from all involved at the club. Not much of one admittedly,but still a million miles away from leaving the club in Carver's hands for half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Carver/Stone staying is much less of a problem if another couple of McClaren's people are added. Can't see that happening though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Carver/Stone staying is much less of a problem if another couple of McClaren's people are added. Can't see that happening though. Why not? You don't think McClaren would want the right staff alongside him? Allardyce supposedly had a team of 40 when he was here. I would think a manager who is serious about his job would want the right people around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Carver/Stone staying is much less of a problem if another couple of McClaren's people are added. Can't see that happening though. Why not? You don't think McClaren would want the right staff alongside him? Allardyce supposedly had a team of 40 when he was here. I would think a manager who is serious about his job would want the right people around him. Are there even 40 people employed by us inclusive of playing staff now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Carver/Stone staying is much less of a problem if another couple of McClaren's people are added. Can't see that happening though. Why not? You don't think McClaren would want the right staff alongside him? Allardyce supposedly had a team of 40 when he was here. I would think a manager who is serious about his job would want the right people around him. Are there even 40 people employed by us inclusive of playing staff now? Well when Pardew took the video analyst guy to Palace with him, apparently we handed the job to Peter Beardsley' son. "There ye gan son you have a go." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Hoping he brings Steve Round back here and Steele. Would be a huge improvement on what we have. Not sure about Paul Simpson. Would rather Clark than Stone or Carver. I'd think he would only come in if the other two departed. Would rather have none of them. They're all ass-kissing failures who believe they're entitled to work here because they're good Jawdie lads. Me too on both Account Dont need Clark, Stone and Carver them Geordie stoogs. His coaching team at Derby are light years a head of us. If he doesn't bring his own staff to work with him I won't be giving him the time of day. It will only prove that Ashley's penny pinching is set to continue and the interview he gave was yet more lies. I really don't think additional proof is necessary like No but it will underline the policy pretty clearly. No coach who serious about the job would come without bringing his own staff. true - but there is often a few staff from the previous regime kept around because they know the club and the players, admittedly not many as inept as the clowns we employ. As long as he brings in his own key staff i can live with Carver and Stone being retained for cone duties. Not Woodman though - not sure what it is about him but i can't even look at him without gretting annoyed. Yeah I said earlier in this thread that there is enough menial jobs that can be passed around to the current coaching team, we are run on a skeleton staff as it is so there should be no problem with McClaren bringing in at least a couple of key coaches from Derby. It would be a show of intent from all involved at the club. Not much of one admittedly,but still a million miles away from leaving the club in Carver's hands for half a season. Totally agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Obviously having 10 coaches who rate 1/10 is the same as having 1 coach who's a 10/10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Carver/Stone staying is much less of a problem if another couple of McClaren's people are added. Can't see that happening though. Why not? You don't think McClaren would want the right staff alongside him? Allardyce supposedly had a team of 40 when he was here. I would think a manager who is serious about his job would want the right people around him. I think he would want his own staff obviously, I just don't think Ashley will employ them. Seems to have been a stumbling block with Garde and Vieira already, don't see any reason Ashley would change to get McClaren. Hope he gets them obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I don't think McClaren even wants this job that much really. If he did he wouldn't have turned us down twice to stay with a team in the Championship. Basically I think we are clearly desperate for him to take the job for some reason, kept offering it to him and when he eventually found himself out of a job this was just too easy a paycheck to turn down. It's like having some lass who constantly tries to shag you but you say no cause you've got a girlfriend and she's a bit of a skank, then you get dumped and just think fuck it I may as well shag the shank for a bit until something better comes along Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I don't think McClaren even wants this job that much really. If he did he wouldn't have turned us down twice to stay with a team in the Championship. Basically I think we are clearly desperate for him to take the job for some reason, kept offering it to him and when he eventually found himself out of a job this was just too easy a paycheck to turn down. It's like having some lass who constantly tries to shag you but you say no cause you've got a girlfriend and she's a bit of a skank, then you get dumped and just think fuck it I may as well shag the shank for a bit until something better comes along Chicane articulates the situation perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yep, I'm actually really surprised we went back to him after the rejections. Seems like Charnley's desperation overriding Ashley's ruthlessness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 A shag's a shag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 One of the way propagandists get away with rewriting history's worst foibles is by normalizing, in turn minimizing the impact of, any given atrocity, and then by acting as if even to debate these points is passé and unbecoming of an educated electorate. This is Cronky and his persistence of downplaying, and then laughing off, of McClaren's rejection of this job not once but twice, which to most of the people following this club was rightfully shocking behaviour, and needs to be brought up again and again so as not to have it rewritten as unimportant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 TBF, we haven't appointed the bloke yet. Plenty of time for it to go wrong and us end up with a Carver/Kinnear dream ticket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 TBF, we haven't appointed the bloke yet. Plenty of time for it to go wrong and us end up with a Carver/Kinnear dream ticket. http://gal.darkervision.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/bush_to_cheney.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Kaveh Solhekol tells #SSNHQ that it looks like it's between Slaven Bilic and Marcelo Bielsa for the #WHUFC job: We have Carver and Mcclaren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 We made it look like we were desperate for McClaren - it was him and no-one else. I would have thought that would have given him some advantage in the negotiations so I would hope that would mean he could bring in his own staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 One of the way propagandists get away with rewriting history's worst foibles is by normalizing, in turn minimizing the impact of, any given atrocity, and then by acting as if even to debate these points is passé and unbecoming of an educated electorate. This is Cronky and his persistence of downplaying, and then laughing off, of McClaren's rejection of this job not once but twice, which to most of the people following this club was rightfully shocking behaviour, and needs to be brought up again and again so as not to have it rewritten as unimportant. But it was unimportant, I tell you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 How do we know he didn't 'reject' the role knowing he'd get a pay off and Ashley having to pay nowt. The game is rigged from the off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 How do we know he didn't 'reject' the role knowing he'd get a pay off and Ashley having to pay nowt. The game is rigged from the off. Bobby Robson rejected the job twice. After Keegan left, and before we came back with an improved offer when he was actually appointed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 How do we know he was offered the job twice and turned it down? Internet rumour and bullshit. McClaren has Said nothing about it officially and neither has the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Even so, big difference between being turned down by the then Barcelona manager, and the then Middlesbrough manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 One of the way propagandists get away with rewriting history's worst foibles is by normalizing, in turn minimizing the impact of, any given atrocity, and then by acting as if even to debate these points is passé and unbecoming of an educated electorate. This is Cronky and his persistence of downplaying, and then laughing off, of McClaren's rejection of this job not once but twice, which to most of the people following this club was rightfully shocking behaviour, and needs to be brought up again and again so as not to have it rewritten as unimportant. I've probably got this wrong, but hasn't wor Dutchie turned us down 3 times? Once after Pardew left, another with 3 games to go and the last time just before being dismissed by Derby? Regardless of how many times, it's indicative of our desperation that a manager can turn us down more than once in such a short timeframe and still be essentially the only consideration for the job. Like others have said though, he's our best appointment for a few years and I'm happy to back him for now, am getting sick and tired of constantly feeling negative towards the club we all love - plus he seems like a nice bloke who'll walk away if he can't hack it. Some of his teams have played decent, expansive stuff over the years and I'm hoping he adopts a similar approach here. I would feel a lot more comfortable if Carver, Stone and co were ditched though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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