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I heard Steve McClaren'S black and white army today.  I give up on our fans ffs

 

Getting behind a manager after a difficult start should be commended. We're not f***ing Chelsea fans.

 

So why not get behind him for the last 8 games?

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I heard Steve McClaren'S black and white army today.  I give up on our fans ffs

 

Getting behind a manager after a difficult start should be commended. We're not f***ing Chelsea fans.

 

So why not get behind him for the last 8 games?

 

It's been sung all season.

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Has to demand the club addresses the frailness of our defence in January (if still here).

 

We simply have to sign a centre half to replace Collocini, a proper left back and find a more solid and forward/positive thinking DM than we currently have (ideally selling/shooting Colback)

 

Fair play for today (albeit against a very poor display by Norwich).

The scoreline flattered by all accounts but fair play, never easy to score 6 lets be honest.

 

Win next week and a doff of the hat is maybe, begrudgingly given.

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Think he's used Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Perez & Mitrovic perfectly the last 3 games. I know Sissoko underperformed in the first two games but I think today's shown that's our best bet. They could do serious damage to a lot of sides. Two against Chelsea, should have been 2-3 at City, 6 today. We've got goals in us.

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:thup:

 

It's been a sort of 4-2-2-1-1 with plenty of fluidity and some genuinely great movement off the ball. Have doubts about its longevity but it's a system that should see us do well through the next run of fixtures. It's quite flexible for when we need to either go more possession or counter-based too - Wijnaldum's both comfortable dropping in pockets and sticking further out wide etc.

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:thup:

 

It's been a sort of 4-2-2-1-1 with plenty of fluidity and some genuinely great movement off the ball. Have doubts about its longevity but it's a system that should see us do well through the next run of fixtures. It's quite flexible for when we need to either go more possession or counter-based too - Wijnaldum's both comfortable dropping in pockets and sticking further out wide etc.

 

I just worry about the lack of natural width - defensively as much as going forward

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Think natural width is a bit over stated myself, when we went in that run with Hatem-Cisse-Ba we had fuck all natural width but created chances by the bucket load.

 

Playing at a high tempo, with movement and incisive passing > natural width.

 

:thup: Same with Keegan's diamond.

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Yeah, I prefer width coming from overlapping fullbacks personally.

 

Sure - but I prefer the oppositions wingers not to be able to cross the ball under absolutely no pressure. That might be about more than formation but it is a real problem for us

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Yeah, I prefer width coming from overlapping fullbacks personally.

 

Sure - but I prefer the oppositions wingers not to be able to cross the ball under absolutely no pressure. That might be about more than formation but it is a real problem for us

 

That was happening when we had actual wingers playing wide too. Sissoko second half actually did his job and we didn't concede, first half he barely bothered tracking their left back and Janmaat isn't the best defender in the first place. Did Gini ever play wide in Holland?

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Yeah, I prefer width coming from overlapping fullbacks personally.

 

Sure - but I prefer the oppositions wingers not to be able to cross the ball under absolutely no pressure. That might be about more than formation but it is a real problem for us

Yeah, I was just stating my preference in football in general, not so much getting into the problems that we have.

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Yeah, I prefer width coming from overlapping fullbacks personally.

 

Sure - but I prefer the oppositions wingers not to be able to cross the ball under absolutely no pressure. That might be about more than formation but it is a real problem for us

Yeah, I was just stating my preference in football in general, not so much getting into the problems that we have.

 

:thup

 

 

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It's clear that we are very much in transition under him. I think he said it well during the transfer window when it would take 2-3 windows for him to build his squad. I think he knows we have weaknesses but must wait to change them. The signs have been there for the most of the season, yes we have let old behind come back when our heads dropped, but the signs are there that he wants to change that. Right now we just need the confidence, hopefully we can now get ourselves a decent run going.

 

I'm not on the McClaren bad wagon, but I acknowledge that we have had a tough set of fixtures to start off with and that it takes time for real changes to happen.

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On the width thing it's worth pointing out that we have potentially one of the best strikers at heading the ball and attacking things in the division yet yesterday didn't put a cross in the box he could attack properly nor really ever looked like doing do.

 

EDIT: suppose it contrasted sharply to the quality and consistency of the crosses Norwich were putting in first half. Mitrovic would have got about 6 from their crosses.

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On the width thing it's worth pointing out that we have potentially one of the best strikers at heading the ball and attacking things in the division yet yesterday didn't put a cross in the box he could attack properly nor really ever looked like doing do.

 

EDIT: suppose it contrasted sharply to the quality and consistency of the crosses Norwich were putting in first half. Mitrovic would have got about 6 from their crosses.

 

We did put balls in the box, just turns out someone else was on the end of them.

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