Lush Vlad Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I didn't think he'd be this bad. For the most part, we have been absolutely dreadful. Even though I have at times, been encouraged by the set up and how we've tried to pass the ball around. I'm now at the stage. Where I'd happily have Brendan Rodgers or Moyes instead. I don't like either of them. Rodgers because he's insufferable and Moyes because I think he's a bang average manager, who doesn't play particularly exciting football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 "It was the worst performance we've had this season, very disappointing and off the back of what has been a very good run. I know all managers talk s***. But I'm not having that. Our 5 games before Leicester. We lost 6-1 to City. Beat Norwich 6-2. Lost 3-0 to sunderland. Drew 0-0 with Stoke at home. Then somehow beat Bournemouth, despite being played off the park. A very good run indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's awful. The best thing about him seems to be from time we'll play some decent carpet football and create nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. Little Mike getting big ideas huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 http://www.calciomercatonews.com/2015/11/22/esclusiva-seedorf-ritorna/ Exclusive by the look of things but no quotes or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Would be thrilled if we got Seedorf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Stick him in centre midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Stick him in centre midfield. Better than Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Would be thrilled if we got Seedorf As if. I'm sure someone like Seedorf is going to come here and accept players recruited by an accountant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Think he's been linked with QPR and Galatasaray recently. Would command instant respect but I'm sure he's not so desperate to work for this regime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seedorf mentioned by Calcio Mercato as a replacement after talks between us and him. No doubt shite but would be exciting. We'll end up with Coloccini as player-manager, no point in getting your hopes up for someone competent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Think he's been linked with QPR and Galatasaray recently. Would command instant respect but I'm sure he's not so desperate to work for this regime. I bet Shearer's told him how good the current regime are to work for too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would cream myself silly if we got Seedorf. I don't care how good / bad he is, he's one of my favorite players of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I would cream myself silly if we got Seedorf. I don't care how good / bad he is, he's one of my favorite players of all time. Steve McClarence Seedorf? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 We need to try as hard as we can to find someone who will set the team up exactly like Diego Simeone does with Atleti. That attitude, energy and passion is what is missing. Need to hold these wankers like Sissoko accountable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think what is starting to piss me off about McClaren is that he seems unable to put his finger on where the problems are. After every non-performance it's the usual "we didn't play very well". Yeah thanks for that remarkable insight Steve. You listen to Klopp and Pochettino and they tell you exactly what they expect and how to get it. I could get it if McClaren was just protecting his players, but I don't think that's it. I just think he's genuinely flummoxed and doesn't know how to put it right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Most likely scenario is McClaren moving upstairs as Director of Football and Ian Cathro stepping in to take his first managerial role. In their eyes it will minimise PR damage and avoid them having to pay compensation. They'd probably trot out some shit about this always being the plan as they saw huge potential in Cathro but wanted him to learn the ropes from an experienced manager first. I wouldn't get excited about Seedorf or anyone else coming in. It's not the Ashley/Charnley way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I think what is starting to piss me off about McClaren is that he seems unable to put his finger on where the problems are. After every non-performance it's the usual "we didn't play very well". Yeah thanks for that remarkable insight Steve. You listen to Klopp and Pochettino and they tell you exactly what they expect and how to get it. I could get it if McClaren was just protecting his players, but I don't think that's it. I just think he's genuinely flummoxed and doesn't know how to put it right. 70 million worth of investment would've helped/ I know this was a defense of Pardew (who had the players) but he really is trying to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Still, I believe that team is better than 4th bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It's surprised me how one dimensional he is. I never expected him to tear up trees and propel us up the table but I did expect him to be versatile and tactically astute given everything that has been said about him, and given where he has has managed. So far we've seen him stick with the same formation and personel game after game despite it not working. We've seen him ignore attacking/creative players in favour of workmanlike midfielders, we haven't really seen any discernible style of play emerging etc. None of it really suggests he's the world class coach and forward thinking tactician that he's made out to be in the old boys network. If he was he would surely have tried out some different lineups, formations and in-game approaches by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 He's a #2 all day. Seems to be a decent coach. Doesn't have the personality, confidence, people skills to be a decent PL manager. It's surprised me how one dimensional he is. I never expected him to tear up trees and propel us up the table but I did expect him to be versatile and tactically astute given everything that has been said about him, and given where he has has managed. So far we've seen him stick with the same formation and personel game after game despite it not working. We've seen him ignore attacking/creative players in favour of workmanlike midfielders, we haven't really seen any discernible style of play emerging etc. None of it really suggests he's the world class coach and forward thinking tactician that he's made out to be in the old boys network. If he was he would surely have tried out some different lineups, formations and in-game approaches by now. Tactics are over rated when you don't have the personality to motivate young men. Footballers need to be inspired. Listen to how Craig Bellamy talks about Sir Bobby: “He’s shit scared of you already, that one, son,” he’d say. Or it might be: “Get him on the turn today, son, and you’ll kill him.” Or: “Look at him, son, he’s not even fit to be on the same pitch as you.” I felt like I was the quickest player going, I felt strong, I felt invincible because of him. He would talk to me like I was the best player in the world and I went out at St James’ Park feeling like I was going to play like the best player in the world. I am 5ft 6 or 5ft 7ins tall but I am telling you this: when I put that kit on and I was standing in that tunnel with Bobby Robson, I felt like I was Didier Drogba. Can you imagine that being SMC's approach? He'll tell Anita to make sure to cover Daryl's runs and some other fancy crap. Football management is a people's game, it's not won with A2 sheets of paper ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Most likely scenario is McClaren moving upstairs as Director of Football and Ian Cathro stepping in to take his first managerial role. In their eyes it will minimise PR damage and avoid them having to pay compensation. They'd probably trot out some shit about this always being the plan as they saw huge potential in Cathro but wanted him to learn the ropes from an experienced manager first. I wouldn't get excited about Seedorf or anyone else coming in. It's not the Ashley/Charnley way Cathro is still in his 20's isn't he? That'd be a ludicrous move at this stage, worse than JFK objectively speaking. I'd take it mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Seems all the coaching staff are cut from that same cloth too. Needs a balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 It's surprised me how one dimensional he is. I never expected him to tear up trees and propel us up the table but I did expect him to be versatile and tactically astute given everything that has been said about him, and given where he has has managed. So far we've seen him stick with the same formation and personel game after game despite it not working. We've seen him ignore attacking/creative players in favour of workmanlike midfielders, we haven't really seen any discernible style of play emerging etc. None of it really suggests he's the world class coach and forward thinking tactician that he's made out to be in the old boys network. If he was he would surely have tried out some different lineups, formations and in-game approaches by now. If they were workmanlike, we'd not be getting bossed by sides like Bournemouth and Leicester. I don't think there's a decent tackle between the lot of them and they certainly don't run as hard as the opposition. Wijnaldum is the one quality player but he doesn't want to defend. If we had a half decent defensive midfielder he wouldn't need to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Most likely scenario is McClaren moving upstairs as Director of Football and Ian Cathro stepping in to take his first managerial role. In their eyes it will minimise PR damage and avoid them having to pay compensation. They'd probably trot out some shit about this always being the plan as they saw huge potential in Cathro but wanted him to learn the ropes from an experienced manager first. I wouldn't get excited about Seedorf or anyone else coming in. It's not the Ashley/Charnley way Cathro is still in his 20's isn't he? That'd be a ludicrous move at this stage, worse than JFK objectively speaking. I'd take it mind I'm not sure he's any better mind, he never seems to say much during the match, it's not like you even see him talking to McClaren. He just sits there looking a bit worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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