Gallowgate Toon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 all him today, he pardewed his way to this one Aided by a fair amount of s**** on the pitch. All he had to do was make one f***ing change. Jesus. And then what? Our centre halves still would've been mugged off by Deeney and Ighalo being able to out-muscle them. So might have been an idea to play to our strengths then rather than rely on a defence that got raped by the same front pair at St James. The f*** are people watching? The same thing but trying to view it with more balance, maybe? Balance. Christ. Have you actually criticised any players today, by any chance? Or is it just your usual McClaren rant that you've been regurgitating every single week for about the last 7 months? We're back to the Pardew days again are we? Manager gets it all wrong so lets blame the players, or perceived lack of them. Last week was McClaren, I don't recall anyone taking it away from him. Today was McClaren too, f***ing s***. Every decision wrong just like most of his time here or we'd have more points. Why do you only view this as one way or the other? That's my point, I only ever see you criticise one person out of the staff in our whole mess. Because we go through players like a hot knife through butter while holding onto managers for years. It's simple stuff to me. Get a better manager the players will play better. Today was the worst I've seen of McClaren, basically Pardew vs Reading levels of absolute s****. You blame whoever you want but I said before the game started we were beat with that formation and selection and that's how it turned out. And you don't think there's a decent chance we'd have been beaten in a 4-2-3-1 with 2 physically poor CBs against 2 of the most direct forwards in the league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 You can't absolve any of the players of criticism though, even if the formation was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The 3-5-2 formation is fine, and we probably have the players to pull it off, but you cant just choose it here and there and expect it to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So what we lost? I said we played it to decent effect. That means we put in a decent performance with it and your point that 'they don't know what they're doing' isn't entirely valid because they've played it before. FYI, I don't think he should've changed it today but I don't think the result would've been that much different if we'd have played a 4-2-3-1, our deficiencies are there for us all to see when we come up against physical strikers. We played a system which was never going to work as we actually reduced our threat from last week by dropping Perez who wasn't brilliant but offers something in front of goal. We packed the team with defenders and midfielders and played a bloke up front who looks like he couldn't score in a brothel, it was destined to end in failure and did so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 A good manager would have us further up the league IMO. S McC would have Leicesters squad in trouble IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Weakest link among many, appoint a decent manager you fuckwits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 all him today, he pardewed his way to this one Aided by a fair amount of s**** on the pitch. All he had to do was make one f***ing change. Jesus. And then what? Our centre halves still would've been mugged off by Deeney and Ighalo being able to out-muscle them. So might have been an idea to play to our strengths then rather than rely on a defence that got raped by the same front pair at St James. The f*** are people watching? The same thing but trying to view it with more balance, maybe? Balance. Christ. Have you actually criticised any players today, by any chance? Or is it just your usual McClaren rant that you've been regurgitating every single week for about the last 7 months? We're back to the Pardew days again are we? Manager gets it all wrong so lets blame the players, or perceived lack of them. Last week was McClaren, I don't recall anyone taking it away from him. Today was McClaren too, f***ing s***. Every decision wrong just like most of his time here or we'd have more points. Why do you only view this as one way or the other? That's my point, I only ever see you criticise one person out of the staff in our whole mess. Because we go through players like a hot knife through butter while holding onto managers for years. It's simple stuff to me. Get a better manager the players will play better. Today was the worst I've seen of McClaren, basically Pardew vs Reading levels of absolute s****. You blame whoever you want but I said before the game started we were beat with that formation and selection and that's how it turned out. And you don't think there's a decent chance we'd have been beaten in a 4-2-3-1 with 2 physically poor CBs against 2 of the most direct forwards in the league? I think today was reminiscent of early this season with Anita playing at 3rd CB so things looked good until everyone realises we had no attacking intent and we lost. I really don't think I'm alone in thinking if we'd played the same formation as WHU with Aarons at LB we'd have given a much better account of ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So what we lost? I said we played it to decent effect. That means we put in a decent performance with it and your point that 'they don't know what they're doing' isn't entirely valid because they've played it before. FYI, I don't think he should've changed it today but I don't think the result would've been that much different if we'd have played a 4-2-3-1, our deficiencies are there for us all to see when we come up against physical strikers. We played a system which was never going to work as we actually reduced our threat from last week by dropping Perez who wasn't brilliant but offers something in front of goal. We packed the team with defenders and midfielders and played a bloke up front who looks like he couldn't score in a brothel, it was destined to end in failure and did so. Fair enough. By the looks of it, a couple of our players going forward looked pretty off it today so I really don't think it would've made that much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The 3-5-2 formation is fine, and we probably have the players to pull it off, but you cant just choose it here and there and expect it to work. It wasn't even 3-5-2 as Mitrovic was effectively up front on his own until we made changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 So what we lost? I said we played it to decent effect. That means we put in a decent performance with it and your point that 'they don't know what they're doing' isn't entirely valid because they've played it before. FYI, I don't think he should've changed it today but I don't think the result would've been that much different if we'd have played a 4-2-3-1, our deficiencies are there for us all to see when we come up against physical strikers. We played a system which was never going to work as we actually reduced our threat from last week by dropping Perez who wasn't brilliant but offers something in front of goal. We packed the team with defenders and midfielders and played a bloke up front who looks like he couldn't score in a brothel, it was destined to end in failure and did so. Fair enough. By the looks of it, a couple of our players going forward looked pretty off it today so I really don't think it would've made that much difference. I think you're very, very wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Somehow we didn't have any control over possession even though we basically had 6 midfielders on the pitch, not quite sure how we managed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Let's see what mcbullshits excuse is this week? Thanks for changing a winning formation. Thanks for playing a clearly not ready Aarons out of position. Thanks for not pushing hard for a left back and striker. Thanks for bringing on gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Aarons, Gouffran, Lascalles, Mbemba all could have played LB at a push. No need for the 3-5-2. It didn't work in the slightest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Nah, bollocks. We pointlessly changed to a stupid formation breaking up our most productive partnership in the process and neutering our attacking threat. It was a typical piece of shitty management that you'd expect from another failed English manager given a last chance at the big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 all him today, he pardewed his way to this one Aided by a fair amount of s**** on the pitch. All he had to do was make one f***ing change. Jesus. And then what? Our centre halves still would've been mugged off by Deeney and Ighalo being able to out-muscle them. So might have been an idea to play to our strengths then rather than rely on a defence that got raped by the same front pair at St James. The f*** are people watching? The same thing but trying to view it with more balance, maybe? Balance. Christ. Have you actually criticised any players today, by any chance? Or is it just your usual McClaren rant that you've been regurgitating every single week for about the last 7 months? We're back to the Pardew days again are we? Manager gets it all wrong so lets blame the players, or perceived lack of them. Last week was McClaren, I don't recall anyone taking it away from him. Today was McClaren too, f***ing s***. Every decision wrong just like most of his time here or we'd have more points. Why do you only view this as one way or the other? That's my point, I only ever see you criticise one person out of the staff in our whole mess. Because we go through players like a hot knife through butter while holding onto managers for years. It's simple stuff to me. Get a better manager the players will play better. Today was the worst I've seen of McClaren, basically Pardew vs Reading levels of absolute s****. You blame whoever you want but I said before the game started we were beat with that formation and selection and that's how it turned out. And you don't think there's a decent chance we'd have been beaten in a 4-2-3-1 with 2 physically poor CBs against 2 of the most direct forwards in the league? I think today was reminiscent of early this season with Anita playing at 3rd CB so things looked good until everyone realises we had no attacking intent and we lost. I really don't think I'm alone in thinking if we'd played the same formation as WHU with Aarons at LB we'd have given a much better account of ourselves. You praised the Anita thing and gave him pelters when he stopped doing it Meh. This won't go anywhere. We didn't look very good going forward today even when people were in their more conventional spots. The only time we looked threatening was that opening 20 which was with a 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 defeats in one season to a poor Watford side. He's on level with Pardew in cluelessness and he is taking us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Somehow we didn't have any control over possession even though we basically had 6 midfielders on the pitch, not quite sure how we managed that. That was the oddest bit. We've got some decent technical players and surely the midfield being closer together should've seen us able to keep it better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Nah, bollocks. We pointlessly changed to a stupid formation breaking up our most productive partnership in the process and neutering our attacking threat. It was a typical piece of shitty management that you'd expect from another failed English manager given a last chance at the big time. In a nutshell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 all him today, he pardewed his way to this one Aided by a fair amount of s**** on the pitch. All he had to do was make one f***ing change. Jesus. And then what? Our centre halves still would've been mugged off by Deeney and Ighalo being able to out-muscle them. So might have been an idea to play to our strengths then rather than rely on a defence that got raped by the same front pair at St James. The f*** are people watching? The same thing but trying to view it with more balance, maybe? Balance. Christ. Have you actually criticised any players today, by any chance? Or is it just your usual McClaren rant that you've been regurgitating every single week for about the last 7 months? We're back to the Pardew days again are we? Manager gets it all wrong so lets blame the players, or perceived lack of them. Last week was McClaren, I don't recall anyone taking it away from him. Today was McClaren too, f***ing s***. Every decision wrong just like most of his time here or we'd have more points. Why do you only view this as one way or the other? That's my point, I only ever see you criticise one person out of the staff in our whole mess. Because we go through players like a hot knife through butter while holding onto managers for years. It's simple stuff to me. Get a better manager the players will play better. Today was the worst I've seen of McClaren, basically Pardew vs Reading levels of absolute s****. You blame whoever you want but I said before the game started we were beat with that formation and selection and that's how it turned out. And you don't think there's a decent chance we'd have been beaten in a 4-2-3-1 with 2 physically poor CBs against 2 of the most direct forwards in the league? I think today was reminiscent of early this season with Anita playing at 3rd CB so things looked good until everyone realises we had no attacking intent and we lost. I really don't think I'm alone in thinking if we'd played the same formation as WHU with Aarons at LB we'd have given a much better account of ourselves. You praised the Anita thing and gave him pelters when he stopped doing it Meh. This won't go anywhere. We didn't look very good going forward today even when people were in their more conventional spots. The only time we looked threatening was that opening 20 which was with a 3. Excuse me? Ah yeah, total nonsense. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RowZed Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Aarons, Gouffran, Lascalles, Mbemba all could have played LB at a push. No need for the 3-5-2. It didn't work in the slightest. It was odd, but why not change it at half time? Watford were there for the taking and McClaren quite simply sh*t the bed. Naive in his tactics and team selection. This game might come back to haunt us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 When will they realise that they could.probably.apend.less money if we didnt have a fucking clueless manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Somehow we didn't have any control over possession even though we basically had 6 midfielders on the pitch, not quite sure how we managed that. That was the oddest bit. We've got some decent technical players and surely the midfield being closer together should've seen us able to keep it better. Especially if he watched Swansea hardly give them a kick last week just by passing it all around them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 For somebody who has been managing for so long, he's shit at trying to change things around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 For somebody who has been managing for so long, he's shit at trying to change things around. That's a bit unfair, Mick. I think we all believed that Riviere was going to blitz a hat trick in those three minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 For somebody who has been managing for so long, he's s*** at trying to change things around. think he got it wrong to start with. Hrs not helped by our options 're poor squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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