KK resigns - see OP for new club statement issued September 6th

[Slugsy]

I'd rather Keegan stayed and we got rid of wise - his is a job that is easily replaceable - Keegan's isnt.

 

I think they are trying to stitch Keegan up - bunch of scumbags to be honest.

[Baggio]

How fcking stupid do this lot look - disgrace to Newcastle united!!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7594586.stm

 

Embarrassing tbh.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I think maybe Ashley underestimated KK's desire and ability to get involved with player recruitment in a detailed way.

 

Since he wasn't around for KK the first time, he had maybe bought into the idea that he was mainly a motivator and not very good in the transfer market (he would have also been concerned by the financial state of the club when he bought it).

 

I know a lot of the press and some fans were unsure about the same thing when KK arrived, would he be out of touch with modern football and the players that are available? With those facts in mind Ashley put in place a progressive recruitment policy that was alien to KK.

 

This might well have led to KK being pissed off, and being who he is, this quickly escalated to walk-out point. Maybe we needed these discussions to get things calibrated slightly more in KK's favour.

[jimmymag]

In KK Ashley has taken on the wrong man (perhaps literally) and likewise I can't see a way back for him and this new setup either so perhaps both sides walking away from Newcastle United may be the best option, especially for fans.

 

Good point. I think Keegan's the last man you p*ss off in football, and in Ashley, KK's probably picked on the one man who you don't try what he did with Hall 15 years back. Clash in personalities I think.

 

Nah man! Keegan's the last man you piss off at NUFC!

[Guest trig111]

Give Ashley a Break

 

Supporters have been brought up on big money signings & not building a team. The club can not financially compete with the big hitters so the new strategy is to build a team with young un-heard of players like the Arsenal model.

 

Therefore getting potential star players before they have a huge transfer fee/wages. The old model led to signing rubbish like Alan Smith on huge wages (making it impossible to move him on)

 

 

Kev/no manager knows all these foreign youngsters & therefore have to rely on scouts. If Keegan was left to do all the transfers he would simply have to go for the obvious ones from abroad which again commands massive fees. I love Keegan but he needs to understand he cant run the clubs new transfer policy as he does not have the knowledge.

 

I am a season ticket holder & reckon Ashley is slowly but surely doing a decent job!!!!!!!!

[Big Geordie]

SSN report that Keegan had been telling friends that he had been sacked!

 

I think they have lost any credibility that they might have had, over today's antics.

[Baggio]

I'd say Keegan walking out has a lot to do with his comments when milner left, with no replacement coming in he's ended up with egg on his face.

 

It's not the ideal situation having someone walking out when he doesn't get his own way, someone mentioned earlier that the club hasn't been the same since Mort left and on the surface it seems that there's a lack of communication between everyone at the club.

 

I'm happy with the set up and the players that have come in have looked quality so far, Keegan needs to take a more active role though and there's no excuse that he shouldn't be out looking at players with the likes of Vetere over the next season.

 

It's not so much the looking for players. It is him being involved in pursuading them to come here. There is no one better qualified to do that than Kev, he should be involved in that process.

 

Based on what?

[Guest Geordiesned]

How fcking stupid do this lot look - disgrace to Newcastle united!!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7594586.stm

 

omg 

 

The lad in the Juventus strip was the only one talking sense and looked a bit embarrassed by everyone around him.

[johnnypd]

Here we go, then, time to lampoon Kevin Keegan again. Time to repeat that he's a blubby man-child, that from the moment he returned to Newcastle in January he was a tantrum waiting to be thrown. Time to smirk knowingly that this was always going to end in tears. Well, maybe it was, what if his departure, which according to our information has indeed happened though it has not yet been confirmed by the club, wasn't Keegan's fault? What if the cliché isn't true?

 

One of the underlying causes of the frustration that famously led Keegan to jack in the England job while in the Wembley toilets was that the FA had refused to let him hire Arthur Cox as his right-hand man (on the grounds, according to Keegan, that at 60 Cox was too old). At Newcastle he was able to resume his long and fruitful working relationship with Cox – until last month, that is, when Cox stepped down without public explanation. That was perhaps a sign of how grim the environment was, an environment in which Keegan was undermined not by his own emotional frailty but by a perverse structure that enabled celebrated football guru Denis Wise to exert more influence on the team than him.

 

Owner Mike Ashley, who has admitted to not knowing the extent of debt he inherited when he bought the club, and who possibly knows more about the intricacies of Jupiter's magnetosphere than he does about football, lured Keegan back with extravagant dreams. They slowly unraveled, revealing a bleak reality. Word is that the two players Newcastle bought yesterday were not the ones Keegan thought the club would pursue when he very reluctantly agreed to last week's sale of James Milner.

 

Even if Keegan did throw a wobbler during yesterday's board meeting – and there is no indication that he did - would such a reaction not have been justified? What would hurricane hairdryer Sir Alex Ferguson, who once threatened to quit Manchester United if club suits didn't sanction the purchase of Dwight Yorke, have done? What would Rafa Benítez, he of the public strops and regular pops at his employers, have done? Who would Brian Clough have punched? Even newbies like Roy Keane and Mark Hughes, what would they have done? Doesn't nearly every manager have a strategic diva inside them? Keegan may not always have deployed her judiciously, but on this occasion an outing would have been well in order. Hell, even the club's famously faithful fans have become exasperated, as proved by the 5,000 empty seats in their only home game of this season.

 

In addition to sniggers about his sensitivity, the other gibe chucked at Keegan when he took charge eight months ago was that, having been out of serious football for the previous three years (his soccer circus doesn't quite cut it, apparently), he couldn't possibly know how things have moved on; he would, mocked the mockers, be blissfully, idiotically unaware that his juvenile idealism was even less likely to succeed now than before.

 

The notion that he was the man to shore up Newcastle's notoriously feeble defence was openly ridiculed. And yet, shore it up he gradually did, even though arch-pragmatist Sam Allardyce couldn't. He also started to wring decent performances from Geremi, Nicky Butt and, of course, Michael Owen, none of whom he bought but all of whom improved under him. He started to grind out results; he exposed the patronising bilge. His record of six wins in 21 matches is nothing to boast about but those victories, and impressive draws such as this season's opener at Old Trafford, all came after a bad start. There were clear signs, then, that, unlike under Allardyce, Newcastle were getting better. But no, it turns out Ashley is making them worse.

 

excellent read. where's that from btw?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Give Ashley a Break

 

Supporters have been brought up on big money signings & not building a team. The club can not financially compete with the big hitters so the new strategy is to build a team with young un-heard of players like the Arsenal model.

 

Therefore getting potential star players before they have a huge transfer fee/wages. The old model led to signing rubbish like Alan Smith on huge wages (making it impossible to move him on)

 

 

Kev/no manager knows all these foreign youngsters & therefore have to rely on scouts. If Keegan was left to do all the transfers he would simply have to go for the obvious ones from abroad which again commands massive fees. I love Keegan but he needs to understand he cant run the clubs new transfer policy as he does not have the knowledge.

 

I am a season ticket holder & reckon Ashley is slowly but surely doing a decent job!!!!!!!!

 

I completely agree with this. I understand how people are carried away by their love for Keegan, I remember how amazing the first time was.

 

But the way some people have turned against Ashley over this is disappointing. I still believe he has an excellent long-term strategy for this club, better than any owner we've had.

 

Maybe we get the club we deserve sometimes, reacting like this?

[Richo]

From Derek Llambias' wiki, come on own up 

 

 

Both Mort was and Llambias is a more low-key than their previous chairman Freddy Shepherd. Major decisions such as transfers will be the remit of Kevin Keegan, Tony Jimenez, Jeff Vetere, Dennis Wise, and ultimately, Mike Ashley.[4]

 

On the 2nd of September 2008, he outraged several toons fans after failing to purchase some kettle chips from asda, opting instead for LIDL's own brand.

 

HE IS A MASSIVE CUNT.

[LiquidAK]

Can someone update me on what the Llambias theory is?

 

I think it's this:

 

Llambias and Keegan have an argument.

Llambias tells Keegan he's fired.

Keegan tells friends he's been sacked.

Ashley finds out what Llambias has done.

Ashley works to get Keegan to stay.

[Guest bertiemasson]

SSN report that Keegan had been telling friends that he had been sacked!

 

I think they have lost any credibility that they might have had, over today's antics.

 

haha hope this teaches the media a lesson - todays antics have been crazy over no facts othet than keegan had a meeting - mad bastards

[jimmymag]

I'd say Keegan walking out has a lot to do with his comments when milner left, with no replacement coming in he's ended up with egg on his face.

 

It's not the ideal situation having someone walking out when he doesn't get his own way, someone mentioned earlier that the club hasn't been the same since Mort left and on the surface it seems that there's a lack of communication between everyone at the club.

 

I'm happy with the set up and the players that have come in have looked quality so far, Keegan needs to take a more active role though and there's no excuse that he shouldn't be out looking at players with the likes of Vetere over the next season.

 

It's not so much the looking for players. It is him being involved in pursuading them to come here. There is no one better qualified to do that than Kev, he should be involved in that process.

 

Based on what?

 

You've obviously never been in a room with Keegan and listened to him speak.

[Dave]

From Derek Llambias' wiki, come on own up 

 

 

Both Mort was and Llambias is a more low-key than their previous chairman Freddy Shepherd. Major decisions such as transfers will be the remit of Kevin Keegan, Tony Jimenez, Jeff Vetere, Dennis Wise, and ultimately, Mike Ashley.[4]

 

On the 2nd of September 2008, he outraged several toons fans after failing to purchase some kettle chips from asda, opting instead for LIDL's own brand.

 

HE IS A MASSIVE CUNT.

 

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

just got back from town.  Once we'd finished getting what we needed we went to Shearer's for a pint and watch the Mong-fest outside.  A few things.

 

- Please tell me SSN didn't show the "If Keegan goes, Boycott the club" banner, with boycott spelt "boycoutt".

- They do themselves no favours.  Chant after chant of "sack the board" - Ashley owns the fucking club.  This will be a bit difficult.

- Spoke to David Craig myself while all the mongs were surrounding the Tyne-Tees guy.  Asked "Is Ashley even in the north-east?"  His response was "I don't know...nobody knows" - not sure how much he knew about all this.

 

 

Cringeworthy day all in all.

[La Parka]

How fcking stupid do this lot look - disgrace to Newcastle united!!

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7594586.stm

 

Embarrassing tbh.

 

 

Idiots.

[Guest optimistic nit]

the only way we can come out with ANY resect or prospects after today is if we dont pick a side between ashley and keegan.

BOTH of these guys need our support if we are to have a successful season, if we start backing keegan and chasing out ashley with pitchforks we'll look like idiots and we'll damage our club.

 

we dont have a squilionaire from dubai, live with it, we have a set up that had been appearing to work on and off the field until monday the first of sepetember, and if keegan is here tomorrow hopefully we'll continue to make progress.

 

We need to be united right now, or we're fucked, because we'll be getting stick from all angles, keegan will, ashley will, and we'd be in a better position if we ourselves didn't add to it.

 

Keegan can't improve us alone and he isn't the only person who deserves credit for improving us, and i believe since ashley took over, and since he took over, we have improved.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Where did the Llambias theory come from by the way?

[STM]

Can someone update me on what the Llambias theory is?

 

I think it's this:

 

Llambias and Keegan have an argument.

Llambias tells Keegan he's fired.

Keegan tells friends he's been sacked.

Ashley finds out what Llambias has done.

Ashley works to get Keegan to stay.

 

I'm hoping Ashley pulls out all the stops to get KK to stay. I actually believe this theory from all the evidence presented.

[Lagerstedt]

Here we go, then, time to lampoon Kevin Keegan again. Time to repeat that he's a blubby man-child, that from the moment he returned to Newcastle in January he was a tantrum waiting to be thrown. Time to smirk knowingly that this was always going to end in tears. Well, maybe it was, what if his departure, which according to our information has indeed happened though it has not yet been confirmed by the club, wasn't Keegan's fault? What if the cliché isn't true?

 

One of the underlying causes of the frustration that famously led Keegan to jack in the England job while in the Wembley toilets was that the FA had refused to let him hire Arthur Cox as his right-hand man (on the grounds, according to Keegan, that at 60 Cox was too old). At Newcastle he was able to resume his long and fruitful working relationship with Cox – until last month, that is, when Cox stepped down without public explanation. That was perhaps a sign of how grim the environment was, an environment in which Keegan was undermined not by his own emotional frailty but by a perverse structure that enabled celebrated football guru Denis Wise to exert more influence on the team than him.

 

Owner Mike Ashley, who has admitted to not knowing the extent of debt he inherited when he bought the club, and who possibly knows more about the intricacies of Jupiter's magnetosphere than he does about football, lured Keegan back with extravagant dreams. They slowly unraveled, revealing a bleak reality. Word is that the two players Newcastle bought yesterday were not the ones Keegan thought the club would pursue when he very reluctantly agreed to last week's sale of James Milner.

 

Even if Keegan did throw a wobbler during yesterday's board meeting – and there is no indication that he did - would such a reaction not have been justified? What would hurricane hairdryer Sir Alex Ferguson, who once threatened to quit Manchester United if club suits didn't sanction the purchase of Dwight Yorke, have done? What would Rafa Benítez, he of the public strops and regular pops at his employers, have done? Who would Brian Clough have punched? Even newbies like Roy Keane and Mark Hughes, what would they have done? Doesn't nearly every manager have a strategic diva inside them? Keegan may not always have deployed her judiciously, but on this occasion an outing would have been well in order. Hell, even the club's famously faithful fans have become exasperated, as proved by the 5,000 empty seats in their only home game of this season.

 

In addition to sniggers about his sensitivity, the other gibe chucked at Keegan when he took charge eight months ago was that, having been out of serious football for the previous three years (his soccer circus doesn't quite cut it, apparently), he couldn't possibly know how things have moved on; he would, mocked the mockers, be blissfully, idiotically unaware that his juvenile idealism was even less likely to succeed now than before.

 

The notion that he was the man to shore up Newcastle's notoriously feeble defence was openly ridiculed. And yet, shore it up he gradually did, even though arch-pragmatist Sam Allardyce couldn't. He also started to wring decent performances from Geremi, Nicky Butt and, of course, Michael Owen, none of whom he bought but all of whom improved under him. He started to grind out results; he exposed the patronising bilge. His record of six wins in 21 matches is nothing to boast about but those victories, and impressive draws such as this season's opener at Old Trafford, all came after a bad start. There were clear signs, then, that, unlike under Allardyce, Newcastle were getting better. But no, it turns out Ashley is making them worse.

 

excellent read. where's that from btw?

 

The guardian

[midds]

It's a bit poorly timed if it is a case of brinksmanship from Keegan. If we was going to threaten to resign, he should have done it while the window was still open. Or am I missing something? 

[Guest optimistic nit]

just got back from town.  Once we'd finished getting what we needed we went to Shearer's for a pint and watch the Mong-fest outside.  A few things.

 

- Please tell me SSN didn't show the "If Keegan goes, Boycott the club" banner, with boycott spelt "boycoutt".

- They do themselves no favours.  Chant after chant of "sack the board" - Ashley owns the fucking club.  This will be a bit difficult.

- Spoke to David Craig myself while all the mongs were surrounding the Tyne-Tees guy.  Asked "Is Ashley even in the north-east?"  His response was "I don't know...nobody knows" - not sure how much he knew about all this.

 

 

Cringeworthy day all in all.

 

 

boycoutt was indeed aired.

[Guest bertiemasson]

the only way we can come out with ANY resect or prospects after today is if we dont pick a side between ashley and keegan.

BOTH of these guys need our support if we are to have a successful season, if we start backing keegan and chasing out ashley with pitchforks we'll look like idiots and we'll damage our club.

 

we dont have a squilionaire from dubai, live with it, we have a set up that had been appearing to work on and off the field until monday the first of sepetember, and if keegan is here tomorrow hopefully we'll continue to make progress.

 

We need to be united right now, or we're f***ed, because we'll be getting stick from all angles, keegan will, ashley will, and we'd be in a better position if we ourselves didn't add to it.

 

Keegan can't improve us alone and he isn't the only person who deserves credit for improving us, and i believe since ashley took over, and since he took over, we have improved.

 

well said that man!

[BlueStar]

Please tell me SSN didn't show the "If Keegan goes, Boycott the club" banner, with boycott spelt "boycoutt".

 

Sadly, yes they did.