Lazarus Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, arnonel said: This forum is starting to become as grim as Ashley reign. Every single thing about the club is dead. Even when someone brings the slightest bit of hope, the forum kicks into keyboard warrior gear. Actually very impressive how thoroughly negative it is Theres your answer. Once the players dont care, once the manager doesnt care, once the owner doesnt care, once the premier league dont care.......fans will ask themselves "why should i"? The ownership of the club is the single issue around which EVERYTHING pivots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Deleted my account on here last year because NUFC is so depressing. However, I wanted to post on this because I feel like the loudest voices on this sort of thing are always the whiners. I think it's a great idea, and in fact it's the only option we have really. Okay it might take a while, and it's not guaranteed to work, but fan ownership has to be attempted at least. It's a strategy that at least we have some control over, whereas deciphering pictures of bread on twitter really isn't. We've seen how close we are to relegation this year. We have no idea how the pandemic and a relegation will affect the clubs finances, but there is potential for club to go on a very negative trajectory towards administration. If that does happen, you want a fans group to be ready. You have to start somewhere, and eventually Ashley will go. When he does, we want a seat at the table. It's our club. Well done to Greg and the team. Keep going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, arnonel said: This forum is starting to become as grim as Ashley reign. Every single thing about the club is dead. Even when someone brings the slightest bit of hope, the forum kicks into keyboard warrior gear. Actually very impressive how thoroughly negative it is Nonsense, there's been opinions on all sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, arnonel said: This forum is starting to become as grim as Ashley reign. Every single thing about the club is dead. Even when someone brings the slightest bit of hope, the forum kicks into keyboard warrior gear. Actually very impressive how thoroughly negative it is On the other side it's fine to have questions about something new. Questions aren't bad, they will help people that aren't immediately willing to pledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, manorpark said: Having an NUST presence on the board, even when we get our great new (Staveley/PIF/Reubens) owners, is a great idea. It takes the club to an even 'higher level' than it even will be after the Takeover. I wouldn't hitherto have thought that possible!! After the Takeover we will not "need" fan involvement in the club, on the board, but (if this works) we WILL have it, and it will just feel great. It is a superb idea and plan, and I'm sure our new owners would like to come out right now to say they support this, but things are (as we all know) at a 'legally delicate' stage at the moment . . . The news just keeps on getting better, hopefully there will not be too much of a negative response to this from some quarters? arnonel, you wrote . . . "This forum is starting to become as grim as Ashley reign. Every single thing about the club is dead. Even when someone brings the slightest bit of hope, the forum kicks into keyboard warrior gear. Actually very impressive how thoroughly negative it is" NO . . . This forum is NOT all "grim" about our club, see the post 'quoted' above. Far from it. Edited April 8, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 If I was very wealthy would there be a tax advantage in donating or as it’s not charity for the off would it not work like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 some people are so defensive of NUST. The old "give us more money please". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ToonArmy1892 said: some people are so defensive of NUST. The old "give us more money please". ‘People’ are too positive, ‘people’ are too negative, ‘people’ are too defensive. Maybe just stick to discussing the substance instead of the meta-complaining. Edited April 8, 2021 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Rocker said: I suspect it's fully backed by the consortium. If this is correct then this will 100% work and I'd commit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 There’s been a number of attempts to do this since Ashley’s been involved, not all of which were grounded in reality. This seems a lot more feasible, both in terms of the ask and what the aim is. I’m behind it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 If any of this ever came to pass ( and it wont ) the fans 1% ownership would merely be used as cover by PIF for the murderous Saudi regime . NUST is only ever going to ask any regime easy questions about minor stuff like the state of the toilets etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Its a good idea. Its ambitious and a long shot but there is room for part fan ownership in football, without doubt. A quick glance at twitter and its a "waste of time", "impossible", "pissing your hard earned away". No doubt the same cunts that refuse to back any boycott or protest and happily donate a more substantial amount to Mike Ashley every other week. And there in lies the problem. Good on the NUST for giving it a go imo. If it's a good idea but based on the assumption fans will be on board, but fans think it's a waste of time, it's a bad idea unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Good to see Taylor Payne getting involved. A sage of the NUFC fundraising scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, InspectorCoarse said: If any of this ever came to pass ( and it wont ) the fans 1% ownership would merely be used as cover by PIF for the murderous Saudi regime . NUST is only ever going to ask any regime easy questions about minor stuff like the state of the toilets etc Valid concern for a lot of people. I guess if we knew exactly who the owner will be in future, it would put off as many people as it would attract. Right now we don’t know who it will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Disco said: Good to see Taylor Payne getting involved. A sage of the NUFC fundraising scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Disco said: Good to see Taylor Payne getting involved. A sage of the NUFC fundraising scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 So let’s all write begging letters to sting, shearer, and and dec, Sid the sexist, Jimmy Nail, Keegan, the cast of geordie shore and any other loaded person with connections to Newcastle. Will be sorted in no time I hope we are going to see a totaliser somewhere, or maybe a go fund me page? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Valid concern for a lot of people. I guess if we knew exactly who the owner will be in future, it would put off as many people as it would attract. Right now we don’t know who it will be. I suppose the response would be that the idea is about fan representation rather than providing backing for the other shareholders. Whether that would satisfy people is up to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 minute ago, ED209 said: So let’s all write begging letters to sting, shearer, and and dec, Sid the sexist, Jimmy Nail, Keegan, the cast of geordie shore and any other loaded person with connections to Newcastle. Will be sorted in no time I hope we are going to see a totaliser somewhere, or maybe a go fund me page? All this shows is that you haven't even arsed yourself to take a look at the website and what the 1892 Pledge actually is and how it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 While in general I like the idea, I have concerns that in reality, it's a lot of money to raise, and for a 1% share that in cold, hard terms, gives us no extra power. The 99% shareholder could just forget about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Greg said: All this shows is that you haven't even arsed yourself to take a look at the website and what the 1892 Pledge actually is and how just had a quick look on the trust site. Can’t find any details at all. Edited April 8, 2021 by ED209 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Much easier to be negative than bother your arse to do anything yourself. Think its a cracking idea, even if it comes to nowt. Will be getting involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 How the major new fan bid to buy a stake in Newcastle United will work - All your questions answered - Chronicle Live This has better Q&A's than the website tbf. Need to get that updated imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, Disco said: Good to see Taylor Payne getting involved. A sage of the NUFC fundraising scene. At least we'll get a documentary out of all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I look at this as a way of helping to potentially safeguard the club in the future by giving fans the opportunity to buy a stake into it at any level post Ashley, regardless of how small a stake is, anything that gives fans a share in their club is worth it surely? I do hope NUST can drum up the support and pledges of former ex players and other influential institutions and people in and around the city/region. Me, I’m excited, this is something that is very ambitious, but doable and mostly encouraging going forward for our club and it’s fanbase, far better than any protest which only divides. I do feel if there was no Covid and we had full houses every week again, the traction of uptake would be bigger and would enable NUST to directly get pledges from game going fans on match days etc. Anyway I’m 100% in support and have pledged my support financially and will continue to do so on a regular basis. Well done @Gregand everyone involved and I hope everyone gets involved be it whatever amount they can afford or want to pledge because this is the only route to having a direct stake in our club, however small or hopefully large. Get pledging folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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