Neil Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Would have Coleman every day of the week currently. Not that anyone on here is likely to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Would have Coleman every day of the week currently. Not that anyone on here is likely to agree. I'd have Coleman as well tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Coleman and Ivanovic are better than Debuchy, man. Defensively and going forward. Amazed that anyone could argue differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Coleman and Ivanovic are better than Debuchy, man. Defensively and going forward. Amazed that anyone could argue differently. agree fully on Coleman, not so sure Ivanovic is better going forward but defensively he's miles ahead of Debuchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 When I say going forward I mean as a general threat going forward - from set pieces, for example - as opposed to carrying it, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 personally I think Chelsea would be better off with Ivanovic at cb and azpilicueta actually playing in his proper position at rb but seems to work for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 personally I think Chelsea would be better off with Ivanovic at cb and azpilicueta actually playing in his proper position at rb but seems to work for them Ivanovic isn't half the CB he is RB. Plus Mourinho doesn't like FBs who are going to attack>defend so he's ideal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 personally I think Chelsea would be better off with Ivanovic at cb and azpilicueta actually playing in his proper position at rb but seems to work for them Ivanovic shouldn't ever play CB proven time and time again he's not good enough there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Ivanovic is a really good RB, no need to fuck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Coleman and Ivanovic are better than Debuchy, man. Defensively and going forward. Amazed that anyone could argue differently. I wish you'd pack it in doing this I remember you saying the same about arguments against Pardew managing Ben Arfa perfectly. I just don;t think that Debuchy being better than Coleman is worthy of ridicule. I would say he's probably better personally like, mainly because of his knack of getting goals, but Debuchy has performed fantastic in a fucking horrid side. I cannot say I watched him in France but it's not like he's just arrived on the scene either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 That's misleading, mind. I maintain Pardew managed Hatem very well on in the whole in 11-12 to our massive benefit. Obviously he's made a shocking and cowardly mess of it this season. Not ridiculing you, either. Ivanovic and Coleman have track records of defending very well and making important contributions at the other end. Debuchy doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Ben Arfa himself said that Pardew was the best manager he'd ever had at some point so clearly things were going well for a while before they went bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I honestly couldn't see Coleman looking the part defensively in a side that collectively concedes 3-4 goals a game. It's cliche but I just couldn't see Coleman being a stand out player for us this season if the roles were reversed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Ben Arfa himself said that Pardew was the best manager he'd ever had at some point so clearly things were going well for a while before they went bad. He also, in the same month, said that he was fully fit but it was the manager's decision to not play him, whilst pardew was saying he wasn't a winger and that his stats weren't right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I honestly couldn't see Coleman looking the part defensively in a side that collectively concedes 3-4 goals a game. It's cliche but I just couldn't see Coleman being a stand out player for us this season if the roles were reversed. He'd stand out like a sore thumb next to the likes of Williamson, Taylor and Coloccini, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Ben Arfa himself said that Pardew was the best manager he'd ever had at some point so clearly things were going well for a while before they went bad. He also, in the same month, said that he was fully fit but it was the manager's decision to not play him, whilst pardew was saying he wasn't a winger and that his stats weren't right. he clearly worked out Pardew would use any excuse not to play him so just tried to suck up as much as possible. If he so much as hinted pardew wasn't jesus reincarnate pardew wouldn't play him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I honestly couldn't see Coleman looking the part defensively in a side that collectively concedes 3-4 goals a game. It's cliche but I just couldn't see Coleman being a stand out player for us this season if the roles were reversed. He'd stand out like a sore thumb next to the likes of Williamson, Taylor and Coloccini, man. I'm not sure he would tbh Ronaldo. With poorer quality players with Ireland he rarely performs very well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Might send that to some Arsenal fans I know, who are livid he hasn't signed anyone, and let Fabregas join Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Arsenal fans are such whingers like. The bloke is absolutely magic. Easily my favourite non-nufc manager of all time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 There are plenty of Arsenal fans that worship the ground he walks on tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 This is true, sometimes I forget that it's just people being daft and not just x y and z team's fans. Except Liverpool of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 There are plenty of Arsenal fans that worship the ground he walks on tbf Sadly the dumbest fans tend to be a given club's representative sample. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Third most successful club in England went 9 years without a trophy. It's easy to see why he was under pressure, especially with the money they've got in the bank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'd be interested to see what level of success they would have had without him arriving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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