U2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Better than Colback and that will become very apparent as the lads career progresses. He really isn't better than Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. this is a decent question tbf Why did no one better take HBA? Doesn't mean he shouldn't still be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Better than Colback and that will become very apparent as the lads career progresses. He really isn't better than Colback. As a DM he is and that's the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Can't say I'm massively arsed about this but I do feel like we should have given him more of a chance. Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Shame. I liked the lad and thought he had potential. Seemed to just have a sort of touch of class about him. Hope he does well. I think that mistake against Manchester United must've been a pivotal moment in his downfall under Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 How are other PL teams' records when it comes to youth recruitment? In the Ashley era only one (arguably two) player(s) signed for the Development Squad have amounted to something more than fuck-all: Perez and Bassong. There's a sprinkling of league minutes between Vuckic, Abeid and Bigi - all of whom have looked useful for a microsecond before going to the pits. But that's it. Is that good going by Premier League standards? I honestly don't know. What about the rest? We've signed a lot. Poor coaching or poor scouting? It seems that players from the area are always favoured in spite of the huge amount of young lads we purchase from other clubs. I don't have a problem with that, providing they're good enough players. But it can't be a coincidence that utter guff like Adam Campbell get anywhere near the pitch, when you consider our Development Manager is a Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jesus christ. I'm not too arsed that it's him but that brings it down to 3 out 3 in (IIRC) from the first team and whilst we have replaced with seemingly higher quality our squad depth isn't much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 How are other PL teams' records when it comes to youth recruitment? In the Ashley era only one (arguably two) player(s) signed for the Development Squad have amounted to something more than fuck-all: Perez and Bassong. There's a sprinkling of league minutes between Vuckic, Abeid and Bigi - all of whom have looked useful for a microsecond before going to the pits. But that's it. Is that good going by Premier League standards? I honestly don't know. What about the rest? We've signed a lot. Poor coaching or poor scouting? It seems that players from the area are always favoured in spite of the huge amount of young lads we purchase from other clubs. I don't have a problem with that, providing they're good enough players. But it can't be a coincidence that utter guff like Adam Campbell get anywhere near the pitch, when you consider our Development Manager is a Geordie. Wasn't Adam Campbell really good at youth level though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jesus christ. I'm not too arsed that it's him but that brings it down to 3 out 3 in (IIRC) from the first team and whilst we have replaced with seemingly higher quality our squad depth isn't much better. Hell with squad depth, we don't even have a complete first XI yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Aye. Too true. We have improved but not by anywhere near as much as the fat cunt promised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I am fucking irate at this. The lad could clearly do a decent job and Id rather see him there than thag ginger cunt. Irrespective of anything it worries me if he is off when we know Colback will most likely be starting week in week out. Mclaren probably thinks playing Colback will appease the fans and he works hard etc. If mourinho came in and he had to choose between the two there would be only one winner. We may have too many midfielders and it might be that he was the only one someone came in for but its still bollocks. Im starting to worry about Mclaren and not just because of this but I have no reason to suspect hes any better than the last 2 cunts. Ill see what he picks this weekend and if he does pick what I think he will its the same old shit. If he surprises me Ill hold up my hands and fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 For whatever reason the bottom fell out of Campbell. It's a real shame as he looked to have vast potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Why is noone better taking him? Has a fee been mentioned? Such a shame, really liked the lad. He could have made it in this league. this is a decent question tbf Why did no one better take HBA? Doesn't mean he shouldn't still be here. Agreed. I think the answer is exposure myself, as someone else had already said. In Abeid's case obviously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 To be fair, nobody bothers their arse with Ben Arfa as there's the perception within the game that he's a workie ticket, rightly or wrongly. Fairly surprised a bottom half, top-tier European team isn't in for Abeid if he's being openly flogged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 If Abeid does go I think it calls into question what McClaren was saying about giving everybody a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Jesus christ. I'm not too arsed that it's him but that brings it down to 3 out 3 in (IIRC) from the first team and whilst we have replaced with seemingly higher quality our squad depth isn't much better. 5 out really as Sammi and Arma got quite a bit game time last season. Certainly 1st squad regulars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Disappointed he is going as I was impressed in the limited games he got to play, he is better than Colback who is just so average it's disgusting. I can't think of a single attribute Colback has that is really good, he is crap at lots and average at some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If Abeid does go I think it calls into question what McClaren was saying about giving everybody a chance. But it opens the door for someone like Kemen to stake a claim and play a bit more. Maybe he sees something in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or maybe he doesn't have a say in it as per his role of head coach. For the same reason would anybody be surprised to see Colo flogged? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or maybe he doesn't have a say in it as per his role of head coach. For the same reason would anybody be surprised to see Colo flogged? maybe mcclaren just doesn't rate abied and is happy to let him.go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or maybe he doesn't have a say in it as per his role of head coach. For the same reason would anybody be surprised to see Colo flogged? maybe mcclaren just doesn't rate abied and is happy to let him.go. I reckon this will be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Or maybe he doesn't have a say in it as per his role of head coach. For the same reason would anybody be surprised to see Colo flogged? maybe mcclaren just doesn't rate abied and is happy to let him.go. I reckon this will be the case. That's what really worries me the most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 He doesn't qualify as a home-grown player and given we've signed three more players who also don't qualify, not sure Abeid would have been registered. Obviously I'd have included him over some of the dross we have, but the management have their own ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Maybe the player himself wants to go if he feels he won't get enough game time with us which is likely. He is at that stage in his career where he needs to be playing every week especially as he is an international and he knows he can do it from his loan spell in Greece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Looked class before that injury he got, then since he came back he hasn't looked good at all, but a good run would probably sort that out, think if we let him go it will be a huge mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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