Cronky Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Agree with Cronky for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I can't think of many bigger issues to discuss then Demba Ba's performance in the Demba Ba thread like... Yh good point lol, it's just the whole Demba Ba has been shit since the New Year has ticked me off a little and quite frankly is BS. Also its not like he hasnt performed on the left...... West Brom, Liverpool and Stoke he played very well there..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'm not bothered that Ba's not scoring. He's been playing in a deeper position anyway, and providing the team is (usually) scoring and winning that's all that counts. What bothers me is that he's looked ordinary at best in that new role. It doesn't seem to suit him. The idea that he just needs to get a goal and then his form will recover seems to me a complete misinterpretation of his current problems. I don't think it's a role that is suitable for him long-term. He hasn't got that much stamina. Think he's done a good job generally, but again, don't think it utilises his strengths for the team. Would like to see him and Papisto both a bit more central, or at least with more interchangeability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He's fucking useless in that role on FIFA. Actually get more use out of Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He has the legs to play a full season in a 4-4-2 but his new role is a lot more demanding fitness wise, I am sure come next season he will be more adapted to it and his fitness levels will be up to it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 No chance anyone will pay £7m for him in this form, not a CL club, not a chance. Really? He's not scored in 11 games, but he's already proven he can score lots of goals in this league. I don't buy this logic that players' valuations can fluctuate by about £10m over a third of a season, unless Liverpool are buying of course. and the goals have dried up since his role changed. many would think, put him back in that role and the goals will return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He's f***ing useless in that role on FIFA. Actually get more use out of Best. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 He's f***ing useless in that role on FIFA. Actually get more use out of Best. which is strange as pardew was playing best there before we signed cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I'm not bothered that Ba's not scoring. He's been playing in a deeper position anyway, and providing the team is (usually) scoring and winning that's all that counts. What bothers me is that he's looked ordinary at best in that new role. It doesn't seem to suit him. The idea that he just needs to get a goal and then his form will recover seems to me a complete misinterpretation of his current problems. I don't think it's a role that is suitable for him long-term. He hasn't got that much stamina. Think he's done a good job generally, but again, don't think it utilises his strengths for the team. Would like to see him and Papisto both a bit more central, or at least with more interchangeability. That's going to be quite difficult and not get completely over run in midfield everyweek unless we changed to a City style 4-2-2-2..... Krul Simpson Williamson Colo Santon Tiote Jonas Cabaye Ben Arfa Cisse Ba Obviously we would need to replace Simpson and quite frankly theres too much reworking going on here..... i think the system we have now is as close as we are going to get to playing everyone in positions that suit them. If Ba wants to stay he's going to have play from the left and hopefully in time the front 3 will understand their roles more and allow for my interchanging and movement so Ba is'nt hanging out on the wing all game. I mean Ben Arfa seems to drift inside alot but he always gets back into his position when we lose the ball but its a position he has played for many many years and he definitely understands it and you can see that. Ba seems to have less experience in the role and it doesnt come as natural to me, hopefully in time he will adapt to the role and be less restricted in his movements. Because i cant see us going to a 2 striker system, as it forces Cabaye and Ben Arfa too deep and we get outnumbered in midfield. This is the best option with the players we have i feel, it must seem nice to have Ba and Cisse centrally but i dont think its for the best interests of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Would love to see Hollett or Moses in that role He should be kept as he can be rotated in Europe with Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Marveaux too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 He was incredibly unlucky not to score the stoke game btw. May have changed the complxion of the discussion if he'd knocked one in that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Whoever thinks this lad has been turboshite for more than two games this season is way off. Across the season he's been one of our best players. He'll go on a scoring run again but probs not pre-Jan style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonZA Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I can't believe some of the over reaction in this thread. Demba Ba has played well this season and he's one of the main reasons that we are where we are. Things didn't work for him today, the same thing could be said of just about every single player who started for us. He hasn't scored for a while but he's been one of the reasons that we've done well since his return from Africa because he's been asked to play a different roll and apart from not scoring he's carried out that roll well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I can't believe some of the over reaction in this thread. Demba Ba has played well this season and he's one of the main reasons that we are where we are. Things didn't work for him today, the same thing could be said of just about every single player who started for us. He hasn't scored for a while but he's been one of the reasons that we've done well since his return from Africa because he's been asked to play a different roll and apart from not scoring he's carried out that roll well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I've figured it out. Demba is reportedly on low base wage but highly incentivised with appearance and goal bonuses, so his goals were getting expensive Ashley told Pardew to play him as a winger and save the money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I've figured it out. Demba is reportedly on low base wage but highly incentivised with appearance and goal bonuses, so his goals were getting expensive Ashley told Pardew to play him as a winger and save the money No, Del boy has stated in a recent interview that the club no longer offer goal incentives for strikers because all Obafemi Martins wanted to do was score form teh halfway line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I can't believe some of the over reaction in this thread. Demba Ba has played well this season and he's one of the main reasons that we are where we are. Things didn't work for him today, the same thing could be said of just about every single player who started for us. He hasn't scored for a while but he's been one of the reasons that we've done well since his return from Africa because he's been asked to play a different roll and apart from not scoring he's carried out that roll well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Much improved and unlucky not to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Just waiting for a bounce and then the floodgates will open again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Really hope he gets one at the weekend; 'Demba's scored 17...' would have the place bouncing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Shame he didn't score from that corner like but he was much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I do feel sorry for him, it's easy to forget how magnificent he was in the opening 20 matches for us. Cisse's second tonight reminded me of Demba's free kick against West Brom, oozing confidence and a striker in his peak. Much improved tonight from the original Demba though, good performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I am sure he is fine, he is playing well and we are scoring goals. No need for this 'hope he score xxxx' stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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