Realistic Transfer Targets

[ponsaelius]

Massive sponsorship deal with Aramco, inshallah

[Guest neesy111]

Btw, have people not realised we are in the biggest economic shock for several centuries now.  Football is not going to be the same way financially after this at all.  Clubs are going to find new commercial deals at same value to be hard to find.

[Nobody]

Aston fucking Villa spent 100m last summer as a newly promoted team, but we're looking to cap our spending at 50m? No way man, that would have been Ashley esque figures.

 

As for transfer targets, get Isak from Sociedad

[Sean]

50m? Is that really going to be our FFP limit?

 

No it's a complete guess, obviously.

 

The question asked was how much do you think the potential new owners will spend not what they could spend.

 

Anyone expecting Man City/Chelsea levels of spending will be in for a disappointment. They’ll not be spending £100m per window

 

Plenty of other clubs spend that amount

 

The truth is none of us know how much they'll be spending, so theres no need for anybody to go on as if they have the correct answer.

[Guest reefatoon]

£50m??  1 Joelinton + 2 Joselu's = Royally fucked

[nufcjmc]

£50m??  1 Joelinton + 2 Joselu's = Royally fucked

 

I think we will spend more initially but say after this hinted 3 year cycle of spending we are higher up the league with a genuinely better squad after that if we then go into a period of replacing old players and adding a quality addition here or there 50m plus player sales may well be fine.

 

I agree with you though bigger spends are required early on due to neglect/poor investment etc

[LFEE]

50m? Is that really going to be our FFP limit?

 

No it's a complete guess, obviously.

 

The question asked was how much do you think the potential new owners will spend not what they could spend.

 

Anyone expecting Man City/Chelsea levels of spending will be in for a disappointment. They’ll not be spending £100m per window

 

Plenty of other clubs spend that amount

 

The truth is none of us know how much they'll be spending, so theres no need for anybody to go on as if they have the correct answer.

 

No one is going on as if they have the correct answer. Someone asked the question what did people think the amount would be. Like you would on a football forum. I offered my balance opinion as I usually do on this football forum.

 

Sounds like you think there’s no need for the forum or any offering of opinions allowed

[LFEE]

50m? Is that really going to be our FFP limit?

 

No it's a complete guess, obviously.

 

The question asked was how much do you think the potential new owners will spend not what they could spend.

 

Anyone expecting Man City/Chelsea levels of spending will be in for a disappointment. They’ll not be spending £100m per window

 

Why not? We know nothing about their intentions or policies, other than presuming they want success and positive media coverage both in and off the pitch. It could be 100m, it could be 10m.

 

Because everything that they’ve said so far through the media (steady sensible investment) along with the more researched neutral commentators and journalists (Not a PSG/Man City type scenario) have suggested so for a start.

 

The question was asked. I give my balanced opinion. £100m a window (£200m a season). No chance.

 

I don’t think that they’ve said ANYthing through the media yet, either directly or otherwise. People taking about steady sensible investment are only going off their opinion about FFP and the apparent inability to copy the Man City / Chelsea route.

 

They have. Go check. Nothing official but that’s not how it works until signed.

 

Same question to you. How much do you think they’ll spend per season?

 

As I already said, I don’t know how much they’ll be spending. No one does. But as the posts since your comment have stated, 50m doesn’t go a long way these days (Joelinton for 40m...), It’s already being suggested that FFP will be relaxed, the Saudis aren’t a slow and steady type - especially if they want comparisons (and victory over) with the Man City / PSG owners.

What have you learnt from the press about their intentions? I genuinely can’t find anything other than guesswork?

 

I appreciate you don’t know. No one does. I was asking what you were thinking figure wise as I’m guessing you are expecting a lot more than me?

 

I think what will change is what you get for £50m. I’d think it be more than what you would’ve got last season in one sense but maybe not for us.. My hope is we get a very good Director of Football who can spend whatever money we have wisely as no doubt we’ll be quoted a lot higher price than we would of these last few years.

 

Oddly having Carr back on board wouldn’t be such a bad thing as if we had went all in for his No.1 choices on his list I think people would look at him very differently.

 

 

[Kanj]

People will be trying to gouge us but I’m certain the inflation we saw in football the most recent years is long gone for the foreseeable future. Unless you have a strong balance sheet and owner you are going to need liquidity sooner than later. From that point of view, £75-100M could go a very long way.

 

Would love to see us go after some top tier out of contract big names and then pair that with a marquee signing or two. You’d imagine that (for example) a Mertens or Willian on a free with a top tier CM or CF would be massive to the team.

[loki679]

Could use a couple of quality full backs.  Willems made a huge difference to us when he was here, I wouldn't mind seeing us in for him again when he's fit.

[LFEE]

Ultimately the most important signing will be the right manager.

[George Bailey]

Absolutely LFFE

 

A top class manager is all the more important then imo. Someone who can fully develop and get the best, the last drop of everything from each squad member. Rafa is the man for me.

 

Liking what I am reading about this chap Nagelsmann too (though admit to being very ignorant of him and his team/s)

 

If, as is expected, there is some kind of reduction in the insanity of transfer fees/player movement/spending power etc we will maybe get to see how good some of these 'great' managers are.

[HaydnNUFC]

Ultimately the most important signing will be the right manager.

 

[Pilko]

I'd argue that Rafa (or someone of similar ability) with this current squad and one or two half decent additions would probably have us top 10 without breaking sweat. The gap to those positions is only a few points - only takes a few of the shitty home 0-0s converted into wins and we'd be sat there already.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I'd argue that Rafa (or someone of similar ability) with this current squad and one or two half decent additions would probably have us top 10 without breaking sweat. The gap to those positions is only a few points - only takes a few of the shitty home 0-0s converted into wins and we'd be sat there already.

 

Definitely, not far off top 6.

 

Not that I don't want players, but we don't need to rush it necessarily.

[Mikky]

I'd argue that Rafa (or someone of similar ability) with this current squad and one or two half decent additions would probably have us top 10 without breaking sweat. The gap to those positions is only a few points - only takes a few of the shitty home 0-0s converted into wins and we'd be sat there already.

 

Definitely, not far off top 6.

 

Not that I don't want players, but we don't need to rush it necessarily.

 

It’s all about positive and astute recruitment for me - recognising you have positions of weaknesses and addressing them accordingly - having a proper left and right back for starters will make a huge difference

[johnny36]

if we are going through Carr's recommendations I would take Lacazette

[Toon No9]

if we are going through Carr's recommendations I would take Lacazette

Lacazette would be a good striker for us. Still have a few good years left and has experience in the PL.

Would only get better if he knew he was the main striker.

[Lenny]

Bring back Mbabu

[TRon]

I'd argue that Rafa (or someone of similar ability) with this current squad and one or two half decent additions would probably have us top 10 without breaking sweat. The gap to those positions is only a few points - only takes a few of the shitty home 0-0s converted into wins and we'd be sat there already.

 

 

 

I don't think the Saudis will be buying us to finish top 10 mind. They will find some way to get that squad up to scratch asap, this talk of slow and steady sounds somewhat unlikely. Obviously we aren't going to become world beaters overnight, but they won't want to hang about IMO.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

if we are going through Carr's recommendations I would take Lacazette

Lacazette would be a good striker for us. Still have a few good years left and has experience in the PL.

Would only get better if he knew he was the main striker.

 

The one that plays regularly for Arsenal?

[nufcjmc]

if we are going through Carr's recommendations I would take Lacazette

Lacazette would be a good striker for us. Still have a few good years left and has experience in the PL.

Would only get better if he knew he was the main striker.

 

The one that plays regularly for Arsenal?

 

I think that's who he means maybe willing let him go as he has turned out to be a 1-3 striker (they should try having a 1 in 29)

 

https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/15/mikel-arteta-makes-decision-alexandre-lacazettes-arsenal-future-amid-atletico-interest-12560500/

 

[Village Idiot]

The transfer market is going to be massively depressed this year. 50m might not be as bad as it looks, many clubs will be desperate to get rid of wages or just make up the losses with any kind of transfer income.

 

 

[STM]

50m? Is that really going to be our FFP limit?

 

No it's a complete guess, obviously.

 

The question asked was how much do you think the potential new owners will spend not what they could spend.

 

Anyone expecting Man City/Chelsea levels of spending will be in for a disappointment. They’ll not be spending £100m per window

 

You are off your tits I you think they are planning on spending 50m per window. That gets you two players*. Fuck sake, even McClaren got 50m man.

 

*pre coronavirus crisis.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Btw, have people not realised we are in the biggest economic shock for several centuries now.  Football is not going to be the same way financially after this at all.  Clubs are going to find new commercial deals at same value to be hard to find.

 

This, and player transfer fees will fall in line with this accordingly too, they will have to. Buy Harry Kane for 150m which any club would have to finance and a month after, the game goes into lockdown due to a new outbreak of the virus? Then what? Or buy him for 50m or not at all and buy a Rondon instead for 15m? Eh Mike?!

 

Everyone will have to be far more careful and far more realistic after this, from player valuations, wage demands, contract lengths, image rights, sponsorship deals, agents fees and everything else.

 

Regarding the club’s future transfer kitty, I don’t think there will be a set figure as such at all, whatever it is and a lot of deals will be done on an undisclosed basis anyway. What I’m certain of, however, is that should the club want a certain player they really value as more than just an asset on the pitch, they will pay not just a premium for that player, but be more than happy to splash the cash so to speak to get their man, whether it’s 20m or 100m and again those figures will never truly be revealed in full. As they haven’t been under Ashley even and aren’t at most clubs, from your Man City to your Wolves.

 

In that regard, talk of specific budgets mean nowt in reality. Will be blow 200m in one window? I very much doubt it, will be spend half that? Probably. We won’t go out and sign a Harry Kane along with other top players of that calibre in one go or maybe ever. It will probably be one marquee signing below the top teir followed by a few more established but not top of the same tier type signings and with more activity in terms of recruitment coming in the form of development players and players under 18 for the academy, from home and abroad. In the initial early days anyway. Until revenues rise and profits increase.

 

Or... they could well just buy a team of galacticos. Who really knows?! They can certainly afford it and I’m not even sure if they wanted to do that, anyone within the game from the powers that be would punish the club for doing so whether they wanted to. There would be massive resentment from the obvious status quo though and of course media and rival fan scrutiny.

 

Everything points to a more sensible, planned and staggered financial approach though. Me, I’d be happy with Rafa having 100m to spend on top of any money recouped from sales that bought us players like he wanted the club to sign permanently when he was here, players like Rondon, Loftus Cheek, 20m + players.

 

Accordingly I’d be happy with progressing from where we are now to top 8 year 1, top 6 year 2 and top 4 year 3 and then build towards competing for titles and European success, even if that meant qualifying for the CL and progressing from the groups only or reaching the Semi of the Europa League after CL elimination.

 

A domestic cup would be even bigger and more doable!

 

I don’t want a Chelsea/Man City style bust to boom turnover or that level of instant mega spend on players which did nothing but totally fuck the whole transfer market up for everyone really anyway where now, right-backs can cost 50m, under 21 youth players with a handful of appearances 20m + and centre-backs from Southampton 70m +

 

Not forgetting 30m Sissokos and 40m Joelintons...

 

This is where the club will need to have the right manager in there who they can work with and who can work with them rather than any manager being bought a boat load of players to assemble a team from. That would be no different to what we had under Ashley and Pardew, just with more money.

 

The manager has to have the bigger say and any worth their salt, will deliver success with proper sensible investment and with adequate good quality players. Rafa, Poch, either would be more than able to do that. Rafa would give the club a head start over anyone else though, because he would actually bring with him his own programmes and plans which he created for the club while here and can adjust to scale easily based on extra financial backing.

 

Then there is the bond he has with the fans, the city and his CV of course which is exemplary. That and he’s a truly magnificent human being, a thoroughly nice man and a loveable bloke, someone you’d want in there to front your business and help promote the good side of the good, the bad and the ugly makeup of the club which will be on show a lot from now on.

 

I’ve always said it’s good people that make good everything in life, be it a business, a service, and especially in business. We had a shit club under Ashley, but had a good man in Hughton. The same with Rafa. Compare the mentality of fans with the club while they were in charge over say Pardew, or Big Sam.

 

Compare the warmth fans had for Rafa’s team which they shared for Sir Bobby’s or KK’s if not in the same way. Compare the warmth to Rondon over Owen. Or shit players who give their all and are decent people over good players who don’t and aren’t good people.

 

The club needs that regardless of how much money will be spent and who they buy. They need good people in there, a good person in charge. Get that manager and allow him to do what he thinks is good for the club, and they wouldn’t need to blow silly money on big names or spend 200m in one window.

 

We’d be top 6 this season if Rafa was allowed to spend whatever the club did under Bruce on his own players and had Rondon, Miggy and Perez up front.

 

Look at what he achieved on a fraction of that in 3 years alone, promotion as champions, tenth, 13th, turning the likes of Perez into 30m players and a backline who could keep clean sheets or shut out star studded sides and world-class attacks.

 

Knowing our luck, they’ll spunk 200m on players and give them to Bruce to work his magic on...