chicago_shearer Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's gonna be hilarious to see the reaction of those willing to give him a chance when he goes and gives Carver the job. The most frustrating thing about Ashley is he seems clueless as well as deeply cynical. If you were a fat sportswear magnate who bought a football club you didn't care about for the purposes of free advertising and selling lots of plastic Wonga shirts to teenagers...what would you do? Probably appoint an experienced, local DoF and ambitious, positive manager. That would be the easiest, cheapest way for Ashley to get some of the fans off his back and get on with the important work of selling them trainers and shirts. You could maintain the same minimal investment on players, Ligue 1 bargain buys and sell-on transfer policy and let a competent manager keep things effective on the pitch (the model being Southampton). Some might complain, but most would be placated by decent football on a Saturday and decent results. But you really could see him appointing Carver. Everyone knows he doesn't give a damn about the club itself, but it's like he goes out of his way to damage his investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's gonna be hilarious to see the reaction of those willing to give him a chance when he goes and gives Carver the job. The most frustrating thing about Ashley is he seems clueless as well as deeply cynical. If you were a fat sportswear magnate who bought a football club you didn't care about for the purposes of free advertising and selling lots of plastic Wonga shirts to teenagers...what would you do? Probably appoint an experienced, local DoF and ambitious, positive manager. That would be the easiest, cheapest way for Ashley to get some of the fans off his back and get on with the important work of selling them trainers and shirts. You could maintain the same minimal investment on players, Ligue 1 bargain buys and sell-on transfer policy and let a competent manager keep things effective on the pitch (the model being Southampton). Some might complain, but most would be placated by decent football on a Saturday and decent results. But you really could see him appointing Carver. Everyone knows he doesn't give a damn about the club itself, but it's like he goes out of his way to damage his investment. Hiring a good manager would do wonders for his image, mostly because a lot of our fanbase as much as I hate to say it, are fickle as fuck. Still though, it's getting results that counts. The problem is with the philosophy Ashley has in place, I don't think we'd have a good manager in place for long because he'd be off for pastures new as well once we'd had a good season, much like what happened with the likes of Southampton and Swansea. It's a never-ending nightmare scenario to have him say he'll be here until we win something, because it's his fault in the first place that we're even further away from that than we were under Shepherd and the Halls. As long as he continues to employ his 'yes men' he'll be a massive failure here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mike-ashleys-new-look-newcastle-target-5761339? Mike Ashley plans to relaunch Newcastle with a fresh mission statement that will put cup success back on the agenda. Newcastle will follow up Ashley’s first public statement for years by laying out a new direction – including a slackening of their tough transfer policy. Ashley will allow chief scout Graham Carr to sign players who are over 25, previously prohibited. He will also demand that Carr brings in a British spine to the team, with up to 40% of players from home countries, rebalancing the foreign recruitment drive of recent years. There will also be a conscious drive to soften their language towards fans, with an emphasis of collaboration and listening. Ashley is under pressure to live up to the promises made during a surprise interview – when he vowed to invest in Newcastle and try to “win something”. Newcastle have been linked with strikers Charlie Austin and Saido Berahino which could amount to £25 million of spending. Marseille’s Ghanaian Andre Ayew and Serbian Aleksandar Mitrovic of Anderlecht are also options. The owner is likely to sideline coach John Carver ahead of finding a new boss, who will be allowed to bring in his own coaching staff. Carver wants to learn his fate before going on holiday on Wednesday. http://i.imgur.com/uBP2g9U.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Have to admit that when he originally started talking I found him oddly cute in a sort of child-like way because of that voice and his cheeks. It went away as soon as I listened to the words and I've felt a bit wrong about it since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/11629234/Newcastle-cancer-survivor-Jonas-Gutierrez-fears-he-has-played-last-game-for-club.html While Ashley’s first interview has been dismissed as a cynical public relations exercise by many on Tyneside, which has done little to pacify the militant opposition towards him, Newcastle do intend to change direction this summer. The club will release a new set of mission statements in the next few weeks and will no longer limit themselves to aiming for a top-10 finish. There will be a softening of the language used to try to reconnect with the club’s passionate fan base and a further acknowledgement of the mistakes made over the past couple of years. Although Ashley’s sudden willingness to speak in public – a decision made on the advice of PR guru Keith Bishop, who felt the best way to end the protests against him was to declare he had no intention of selling the club – was part of that fresh approach and should be welcomed, supporters want proof things have changed. The breakdown in trust between those who run the club and follow it was not healed by a 2½-minute television interview with a journalist who is also a client of Bishop PR, but it was a step in the right direction. Ashley’s insistence that he will not sell will not end the opposition to him, but significant investment in the squad this summer will start to ease the bitterness. Although Ashley is adamant he wants to win something while he is owner, the “cups are not a priority policy” repeatedly stressed by managing director Lee Charnley, was his idea when they returned to the top flight five years ago. This policy will be reversed, most notably in the FA Cup, but supporters will be wary of believing things have changed for the better until they see the strength of the teams sent out in both domestic cup competitions next season. Even before Ashley spoke before the win against West Ham on Sunday that guaranteed the club’s top flight status, Newcastle were ready to change their transfer policy after acknowledging they had littered the dressing room with players ill-equipped to deal with the stress and strain of a Premier League campaign. There are thought to be too many mercenaries in the Newcastle squad, who see it is a stepping stone club, as this is how it was sold to them when they agreed to join. The Newcastle hierarchy claim they will no longer make that mistake, although players will still be sold if the profit margins are big enough. Newcastle want to increase the number of British players in the squad and hopes to form a new spine of the team with signings with prior experience of English football, as well as an affinity towards it. They will also relax the policy which saw them focus on signing players with resale value which should mean more players over the age of 26 arrive this summer. However, players over the age of 30 will still not be considered. Same general stuff, so obviously this yarn has been put out by the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Can't believe the mirror fell for the scoop I sent them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 So things are looking up. Will feel so fucking positive if Carver is out the door by Wednesday Why do we..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 None of that stuff in the papers will matter if they appoint Carver as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 This I won't sell the we win is a statement of defiance to those protesting as much as anything. It just so happens to placate the less bright of us into thinking he cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 All of this stuff makes me want to get my season ticket back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Ash Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There are thought to be too many mercenaries in the Newcastle squad, who see it is a stepping stone club, as this is how it was sold to them when they agreed to join. Tell players we're a stepping stone club they can use to further their careers. Are surprised when players see us as a stepping stone club they can use to further their careers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Absolute horse shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Ashley has already given us his excuse for next season live on tv, charnley runs the club and he will be given one more chance the day after transfer deadline day when he has sold out best players and spent about £10 million as well as giving carver the managers job. Both charnley and carver will be sacked the day after January's transfer deadline after they failed to get players over the line which will lead to Ashley riding to the rescue once more and employing rednapp before the whole sorry story starts again next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Fuck all will happen because he's simply too concerned with ££££ meaning he won't part with cash. For an absolute fraction of the barrels of cash coming in he could sign a decent, solid manager who could bring players on and increase their value for future profit in the process. While simultaneously get the team well drilled, playing good football. As it is he'll ALWAYS a look for the cheap /numpty option like Carver. Even in the situation where he might consider bringing a proper appointment in, the idea of reporting to an idiotit, clueless fool like Charnley and having no say in transfers will put any right minded individual off. Spend some proper money on players, bring in a proper manager and give them their own back room staff and say on transfers................There's just too much that needs to change for anything truly progressive to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The club will release a new set of mission statements in the next few weeks and will no longer limit themselves to aiming for a top-10 finish. There will be a softening of the language used to try to reconnect with the club’s passionate fan base and a further acknowledgement of the mistakes made over the past couple of years. so they'll basically just lie to get people on side, right enough, carry on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He'll say the target is top 8 and go seriously in the cups with a net spend of £15m and Carver in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 What a ridiculous statement (Cunning Linguist). It's the first time he has done anything in the public eye and it's solely down to the fact ticket sales are likely to drop and his asset was likely to severely depreciate in value. In fact it probably still will unless he follows up on his promises of investment, which in itself is unlikely because they're all lying c***s - him and his bum-bandits. AshleyOut have increased media attention if nowt else and now the whole footballing world is waking up to Mikes twattery. So that in itself says they've done a good job. The next 12 months will be a key indicator as to what his intentions are. Hahahahaha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The interview was horrendous. So badly staged and scripted. Probably had a fucking autocue for all his bullshit and lies. I fucking hate this club at the minute. Didn’t even manage a full day of being happy/relieved that we stayed up. As I ended up watching this the morning after and it just reminded me how doomed we are. Another 5 years or more of, at best, mediocrity, shit managers and relegation scraps. Oh joy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Here Mike, mission accomplished: http://www.deportivo-la-coruna.com/pics/regular/Teresa-Herrera_2010_001.jpg Now you can sell with peace of mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He will also demand that Carr brings in a British spine to the team. All the pundits you love to hate rolled up in that one little statement. Dinosaur thinking. Assess your players correctly, it doesn't matter where the fuck they came from. Pardew was always rattling on about British players, pricks, the lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 I would say that pretty much every side to have been succesful in the PL had a British spine, mind. It's not so much about nationality per se but the importance of recruting players from a top standard of football with quite a unique tempo and physical demands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 moar colbacks pls, give british spines to helpless toon playaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He has to make sure we get the right man with the right squad , The huge increase in TV money for the 2016/17 season could easily wipe out the debt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 He just needs to survive next season to get the TV money. The right man and all that shit is meaningless. Survival is the name of the game for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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