Numbers Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Ben Arfa should hang around as Pardew will be found wanting and be peddled some time next season. Who would you replace him with? This might surprise you, I'll not be replacing anybody. Oh ok then, thanks for clearing that one up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 not surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Anyone who has read one of the recent editions of True Faith will have probably read the bit where their writer interviews Pardew and he's absolutely adamant that HBA is not a winger and is only a number 10. If that's truly the case then it looks like he's up against Ba, Cisse and possibly Cabaye. Pardew is getting away with it purely because of where we are in the league, but any owner of eyes can see that that's is in no way down to Ryan Taylor and particularly Obertan playing on the right wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Anyone who has read one of the recent editions of True Faith will have probably read the bit where their writer interviews Pardew and he's absolutely adamant that HBA is not a winger and is only a number 10. If that's truly the case then it looks like he's up against Ba, Cisse and possibly Cabaye. Pardew is getting away with it purely because of where we are in the league, but any owner of eyes can see that that's is in no way down to Ryan Taylor and particularly Obertan playing on the right wing. I haven't read True Faith in fucking ages when my subscription ran out. Used to be class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 He's our most creative and flair player we have, there obviously is no room for him as a number 10 because Pardew won't play anything but 4-4-2 with Cabaye and Tiote in the centre. Ergo he's too talented to waste, better as a winger than not on the pitch at all and better than the dross that occupies the RW atm. Unreal how his thought process works! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I really thougt he'd establish himself during Ba's absence Wasn't really given the opportunity to though. With a number of Pardew's butt-boys on the bench as well there is absolutley fuck all chance he'll get onto the field today either. May as well have sold him to a Russian side or loan him into the Championship after the window shut for all the good he's doing his career here to be brutally honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 He's our most creative and flair player we have, there obviously is no room for him as a number 10 because Pardew won't play anything but 4-4-2 with Cabaye and Tiote in the centre. Ergo he's too talented to waste, better as a winger than not on the pitch at all and better than the dross that occupies the RW atm. Unreal how his thought process works! pardew does not only play 4-4-2, we have played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 depends on how you look at it, and Pards opted to deploy HBA as wide right, and he wasn't very impressive. then again he played Best at wide left at the same time, what a genius Pardew, plonker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L (league results only) Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 He's our most creative and flair player we have, there obviously is no room for him as a number 10 because Pardew won't play anything but 4-4-2 with Cabaye and Tiote in the centre. Ergo he's too talented to waste, better as a winger than not on the pitch at all and better than the dross that occupies the RW atm. Unreal how his thought process works! pardew does not only play 4-4-2, we have played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 depends on how you look at it, and Pards opted to deploy HBA as wide right, and he wasn't very impressive. then again he played Best at wide left at the same time, what a genius Pardew, plonker. And as soon as something goes wrong his arse goes and we're straight back to 4-4-2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. I'm with you on this one, the less players we can have on the pitch who can score and assist the better!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 i'd have him on the left or the right, think he's more dangerous than either jonas, obertan or raylor. the first two especially get indulged by pardew who sticks with them when they're playing shite - it's a pity the same faith and backing hasn't been extended to a far more talented player. i honestly think if ben arfa spent 90 mins acting as a more advanced full-back running around tackling people and didn't attempt a single attacking move he'd be in the team every week. it's a real pity he's not in the team today as wolves are weak as hell so i think whoever plays has a massive chance to put in a great performance - no matter which of the 4 wide players it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L (league results only) Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. I must admit this messianic culture building up around him is getting bloody annoying. I'm in the minority but Pardew has earned the right to field who ever he want's (unless it's Shola ) We'll do them comfortably and Barfa will get 25 minutes to show what he can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L (league results only) Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. a) That doesn't tell the whole story - what teams were the stats against? b) Clearly the best run has been when he's come on as a sub c) He plays in fits and starts, doesn't get a series of games to settle in I'm not a bandwagon jumper that comes on just cuz he hasn't started, I just think he's too talented a player not to be given a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 please dont waste this boy's talent, just sell him and give him a future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 i'd have him on the left or the right, think he's more dangerous than either jonas, obertan or raylor. the first two especially get indulged by pardew who sticks with them when they're playing shite - it's a pity the same faith and backing hasn't been extended to a far more talented player. i honestly think if ben arfa spent 90 mins acting as a more advanced full-back running around tackling people and didn't attempt a single attacking move he'd be in the team every week. it's a real pity he's not in the team today as wolves are weak as hell so i think whoever plays has a massive chance to put in a great performance - no matter which of the 4 wide players it is. No doubt Pardew will congratulate himself for picking Ryan Taylor when we win today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L (league results only) Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. He's never had a run of games or chance to redeem himself from poor performances (unlike Obertan and Raylor who have had many). Those stats mean nowt, as Matt has said. I just think he's a good player and a symbol of a new footballing philosophy for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Thread title needs to be Hatem Bench Arfa again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Beyond all the Ben Arfa nonsense. Why the hell are we playing at rightback at winger against the worst form team in the league...at home. What are we scared of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I just want us to win and if Pardew thinks we stand a better chance of that without HBA starting or that his inclusion might be detrimental to the gameplan he wants to go with, so be it. His record backs him up on this. HBA Starts: 1W1D3L HBA Subs: 5W1D2L HBA Doesn't play: 4W1D2L (league results only) Not that this will do a damn thing to stop a Category IV Cryphoon from slamming into N-O every time he doesn't start but just think about it. Ben Arfa happened to start away to Manchester United, Manchester City, and home against Chelsea (before they collapsed). He also played in the Fulham match where out defence evaporated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 just like to say that 27 minutes into the wolves match ryan taylor @ RW might as well not have existed, has contributed nothing offensively or defensively totally and utterly anonymous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Nah, we'd be 6-2 down if HBA had started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Would rather forfeit our remaining games than not play him tbqh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Who's said that like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Would rather forfeit our remaining games than not play him tbqh. just saying, in 27 minutes everyone's looked decent and contributed more than raylor...i simply can't see what he's doing that hba OR obertan for example couldn't do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 I like how people on this forum are able to selectively turn off the ability to interpret hyperbole. edit: not mmr75 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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