sunderland

[Karjala]

Mackems never last long on here, there's always a fucking feeding frenzy whenever they inevitably share a different opinion. He can stay banned for all I care, just an observation.

Ban them? I'd shoot them, every last one.

 

 

[Tiresias]

Mackems never last long on here, there's always a f***ing feeding frenzy whenever they inevitably share a different opinion. He can stay banned for all I care, just an observation.

Ban them? I'd shoot them, every last one.

 

[JH]

That game yesterday was the worst televised game I've seen all season. Turgid is a kind assessment.

 

Amazing that they always have to try and get one over on us.

 

"Mags had a boring game on Friday, well we make our game even more boring FTM."

[Dokko]

Serious? The stuff was in the papers. If you can't discuss stuff that's already in public then what can you discuss?

 

Not it wasn't. What was reported in the papers was that the women that were there were in possession of cocaine, not Carroll or Nolan and they certainly weren't charged or done as he said. And it wasn't a discussion, he was accusing.

 

Anything else you'd like to be wrong about?

 

 

 

[Taylor Swift]

It was a discussion about both clubs having employed players who have done stupid shit, which he was right to point out that all clubs have. This was a minor, minor point of incorrect detail which doesn't affect the point that he was making.

[Guest BooBoo]

[Cajun]

It was a discussion about both clubs having employed players who have done stupid shit, which he was right to point out that all clubs have. This was a minor, minor point of incorrect detail which doesn't affect the point that he was making.

 

If he has been muted for 24 hours he has been treated more leniently than most tbh.

[Dokko]

It was a discussion about both clubs having employed players who have done stupid shit, which he was right to point out that all clubs have. This was a minor, minor point of incorrect detail which doesn't affect the point that he was making.

 

It's not a minor detail, its a huge detail accusing someone of something that would ruin them professionally. Stop talking shite. It was me that muted him and i stick by it, if you've got any problems with that direct them at my PM box and we can discuss it further, though i doubt you will as its not the public showing that you are craving for.

 

 

[Fenham Mag]

He called Pardew a wankstain, how is that a level headed?

 

It was clearly tongue-in-cheek.

 

Was it fuck

[Guest schmuck]

It was a discussion about both clubs having employed players who have done stupid shit, which he was right to point out that all clubs have. This was a minor, minor point of incorrect detail which doesn't affect the point that he was making.

 

It's not a minor detail, its a huge detail accusing someone of something that would ruin them professionally. Stop talking shite. It was me that muted him and i stick by it, if you've got any problems with that direct them at my PM box and we can discuss it further, though i doubt you will as its not the public showing that you are craving for.

 

 

 

Why isn't this kind of thing enforced on the dozens of other occasions it could be then? For example every time someone makes a comment about Pardew having it away with player's wives.

 

Some people are like virgins on viagra every time a mackem comes on here.

[Taylor Swift]

Martin the Magician, of course it was

 

If it wasn't a joke then it's a pretty direct contrast to the rest of his posts.

[TaylorJ_01]

Another thick mackem t***...

 

That's worse than anything Pax said tbh. #justiceforpaxton

 

Look at me, look at me. I've just cracked a joke.

 

Pathetic.

 

toffee cunt

[Oakie Doke]

He was a bit of a WUM, but worthy of a ban? 

 

Would anyone be willing to pitch in for a 'Justice for Paxton' banner to take to the Bolton match?

[Guest johnson293]

He was a bit of a WUM, but worthy of a ban? 

 

As has been explained, it seems he was only given '24 hours off' after posting potentially libelous claims about former NUFC players and drug use. He wasn't banned for anything else he posted.

 

However, form what I did see of his posts, it seemed that most had an undercurrent of bitterness/WUM, call it what you like about NUFC, much like previous mackem posters that have been here before him.

 

It starts like that, but generally only ever ends up one way. /wireside/

[wormy]

It's a 24 hour rest for a libellous claim. Don't know how it can be argued so fucking much. As someone else says, he could've been dealt a harsher hand.

 

Don't get the advocating of banning him completely tbh. I know I wasn't that endearing at first, but if anything I think he'd started improving from the 'Catts over Tiote for me' tripe. As others have said, he's got rose-tinted specs like most fans. But he's made some fair points amongst some of his bias. And he's handled the throngs of abuse better than most would. What do you expect to get from a mackem who, from each of his posts, gets 20 replies? It's a forum of hundreds of regularly active users ganging up on one guy ffs.

 

I do expect him to break, like every one of them does for the reason above. But let's just make the most of the only half-mental mackem while we can.

[S.S.R.]

Pax for me, like.

[Dave]

Pax for me, like.

 

racist

[cp40]

I say we lynch him

[brummie]

Villa is run by very weak individuals, who let the club go into slide, and it was their own faults.

 

Are you for real?

 

Villa put too much trust in O'Neill. O'Neill's idea of a transfer policy is that you have no scouting network (genuinely, that's not an exaggeration, we didn't have any), and that you buy only from the home market.

 

He bought 30 odd players at Villa. The number who weren't playing already in the UK? Two. And one of those only happened because Lyon got on the blower and offered him to us.

 

MON will only work somewhere where he's the undisputed power - on and off the pitch. That's why Quinn has been shunted away. At Villa, MON worked with three chief executives - Richard FitzGerald, Michael Cunnah and Paul Faulkner.

 

The first two left because they found MON impossible to work with. the final one was the one who told him he had to do something about the wage bill. He refused, hoping he'd win again, only not to, as he was up against one of Lerner's closest advisors.

 

So what did he do? He threw his toys out of the pram and left, *five days* before the start of the season. That screwed up last season for us, and if you want an indicator of where his fucking shameful transfer policy left us, look at the logic in buying an enitre defence in 2008-09 (Friedel. Shorey. Curtis Davies, Cuellar, Luke Young - who he could have had for 2m the year before, but waited and paid 5m for) then, deciding he didn't rate them almost immediately, going out the next season and buying ANOTHER entire defence (Beye, Warnock, Collins, Dunne).

 

You can point at Ashley Young and say he was a good signing (he was), and Milner was superb for us, but as he'd already spent a year with us before, that one was hardly earth shattering in terms of him scouting out a gem.

 

When he left, he left us with a wage bill that was 88% of our turnover, and at that point I think we had the sixth or seventh highest turnover in the league - so go figure that one out.

 

That's why we've had Habib Beye here for three whole years, now aged 35, picking up 40k a week. Thats why we bought Curtis Davies for 10 million pounds - think about it, ten million pounds - only to see him fail and be moved on to Blues for a pittance.

 

That's also why we're paying Emile Fucking Heskey 65,000 a week until he's 35, too.

 

You can kid yourself about "oh, it'l be different this time" but it will not be. When he left Celtic, they had the same problems. They were paying Bobo Balde the best part of 40k a week. In the SPL. Think about it.

 

I note also that you're needing to buy strikers this summer. Well, good luck for that. I remember us clamouring for a reliable scorer to get us into the top four. Martin went out and bought Harewood, then Heskey. At the time Darren Bent went to Sunderland for a measley £10m.

 

He'll almost certainly sign Kevin Doyle for you, and you'll have misgivings and convince yourself it's about what he does in a Sunderland shirt that matters, but good fucking luck with that, because O'Neill couldn't pick a striker to save his life.

 

Don't get me wrong, MON had us finishing sixth (as, however, did O'Leary, which puts it in context), he's not a bad manager at all. But I'll tell you this for nothing, he'll never get you finishing about 8th or so (which these days is the new sixth, as it's harder up the top than it used to be), for two reasons. Those reasons are that to make that extra jump, you need two things - you need to play the transfer market effectively, and you need to be tactically sound.

 

Those, by coincidence, are MON's two major weaknesses. I've already covered transfers, but about now you should be getting the general sense that although it's ace when his Plan A works (soak up pressure, counter attack, like an away team), he genuinely does not have a clue about where to start iwth having a Plan B.

 

In four years with us, I also genuinely can not remember one single instance when he made a substitution which changed a match, or changed the way we were set out to play. I suspect he's probably not changed much.

 

I bet, for example, if i look at your last fixture, he'll have made a change at around 75 minutes. I bet he's done that in almost all your games. Over the course of time, it'll be one player more than any he brings on (for us it was Sidwell, another execrable waste of money). For you, no idea who it'l be, but it'll happen, believe me.

 

 

[Skeletor]

Villa is run by very weak individuals, who let the club go into slide, and it was their own faults.

 

Are you for real?

 

Villa put too much trust in O'Neill. O'Neill's idea of a transfer policy is that you have no scouting network (genuinely, that's not an exaggeration, we didn't have any), and that you buy only from the home market.

 

He bought 30 odd players at Villa. The number who weren't playing already in the UK? Two. And one of those only happened because Lyon got on the blower and offered him to us.

 

MON will only work somewhere where he's the undisputed power - on and off the pitch. That's why Quinn has been shunted away. At Villa, MON worked with three chief executives - Richard FitzGerald, Michael Cunnah and Paul Faulkner.

 

The first two left because they found MON impossible to work with. the final one was the one who told him he had to do something about the wage bill. He refused, hoping he'd win again, only not to, as he was up against one of Lerner's closest advisors.

 

So what did he do? He threw his toys out of the pram and left, *five days* before the start of the season. That screwed up last season for us, and if you want an indicator of where his f***ing shameful transfer policy left us, look at the logic in buying an enitre defence in 2008-09 (Friedel. Shorey. Curtis Davies, Cuellar, Luke Young - who he could have had for 2m the year before, but waited and paid 5m for) then, deciding he didn't rate them almost immediately, going out the next season and buying ANOTHER entire defence (Beye, Warnock, Collins, Dunne).

 

You can point at Ashley Young and say he was a good signing (he was), and Milner was superb for us, but as he'd already spent a year with us before, that one was hardly earth shattering in terms of him scouting out a gem.

 

When he left, he left us with a wage bill that was 88% of our turnover, and at that point I think we had the sixth or seventh highest turnover in the league - so go figure that one out.

 

That's why we've had Habib Beye here for three whole years, now aged 35, picking up 40k a week. Thats why we bought Curtis Davies for 10 million pounds - think about it, ten million pounds - only to see him fail and be moved on to Blues for a pittance.

 

That's also why we're paying Emile f***ing Heskey 65,000 a week until he's 35, too.

 

You can kid yourself about "oh, it'l be different this time" but it will not be. When he left Celtic, they had the same problems. They were paying Bobo Balde the best part of 40k a week. In the SPL. Think about it.

 

I note also that you're needing to buy strikers this summer. Well, good luck for that. I remember us clamouring for a reliable scorer to get us into the top four. Martin went out and bought Harewood, then Heskey. At the time Darren Bent went to Sunderland for a measley £10m.

 

He'll almost certainly sign Kevin Doyle for you, and you'll have misgivings and convince yourself it's about what he does in a Sunderland shirt that matters, but good f***ing luck with that, because O'Neill couldn't pick a striker to save his life.

 

 

Painful dose of reality there for Paxton.

[Dave]

Game over man, game over.

[Nobody]

Mackems not highlighted as a "difficult game" in the run in for the Manc teams while we were. Magedia. FTM.

[Ashley17]

Villa is run by very weak individuals, who let the club go into slide, and it was their own faults.

 

Are you for real?

 

Villa put too much trust in O'Neill. O'Neill's idea of a transfer policy is that you have no scouting network (genuinely, that's not an exaggeration, we didn't have any), and that you buy only from the home market.

 

He bought 30 odd players at Villa. The number who weren't playing already in the UK? Two. And one of those only happened because Lyon got on the blower and offered him to us.

 

MON will only work somewhere where he's the undisputed power - on and off the pitch. That's why Quinn has been shunted away. At Villa, MON worked with three chief executives - Richard FitzGerald, Michael Cunnah and Paul Faulkner.

 

The first two left because they found MON impossible to work with. the final one was the one who told him he had to do something about the wage bill. He refused, hoping he'd win again, only not to, as he was up against one of Lerner's closest advisors.

 

So what did he do? He threw his toys out of the pram and left, *five days* before the start of the season. That screwed up last season for us, and if you want an indicator of where his fucking shameful transfer policy left us, look at the logic in buying an enitre defence in 2008-09 (Friedel. Shorey. Curtis Davies, Cuellar, Luke Young - who he could have had for 2m the year before, but waited and paid 5m for) then, deciding he didn't rate them almost immediately, going out the next season and buying ANOTHER entire defence (Beye, Warnock, Collins, Dunne).

 

You can point at Ashley Young and say he was a good signing (he was), and Milner was superb for us, but as he'd already spent a year with us before, that one was hardly earth shattering in terms of him scouting out a gem.

 

When he left, he left us with a wage bill that was 88% of our turnover, and at that point I think we had the sixth or seventh highest turnover in the league - so go figure that one out.

 

That's why we've had Habib Beye here for three whole years, now aged 35, picking up 40k a week. Thats why we bought Curtis Davies for 10 million pounds - think about it, ten million pounds - only to see him fail and be moved on to Blues for a pittance.

 

That's also why we're paying Emile Fucking Heskey 65,000 a week until he's 35, too.

 

You can kid yourself about "oh, it'l be different this time" but it will not be. When he left Celtic, they had the same problems. They were paying Bobo Balde the best part of 40k a week. In the SPL. Think about it.

 

I note also that you're needing to buy strikers this summer. Well, good luck for that. I remember us clamouring for a reliable scorer to get us into the top four. Martin went out and bought Harewood, then Heskey. At the time Darren Bent went to Sunderland for a measley £10m.

 

He'll almost certainly sign Kevin Doyle for you, and you'll have misgivings and convince yourself it's about what he does in a Sunderland shirt that matters, but good fucking luck with that, because O'Neill couldn't pick a striker to save his life.

 

Don't get me wrong, MON had us finishing sixth (as, however, did O'Leary, which puts it in context), he's not a bad manager at all. But I'll tell you this for nothing, he'll never get you finishing about 8th or so (which these days is the new sixth, as it's harder up the top than it used to be), for two reasons. Those reasons are that to make that extra jump, you need two things - you need to play the transfer market effectively, and you need to be tactically sound.

 

Those, by coincidence, are MON's two major weaknesses. I've already covered transfers, but about now you should be getting the general sense that although it's ace when his Plan A works (soak up pressure, counter attack, like an away team), he genuinely does not have a clue about where to start iwth having a Plan B.

 

In four years with us, I also genuinely can not remember one single instance when he made a substitution which changed a match, or changed the way we were set out to play. I suspect he's probably not changed much.

 

I bet, for example, if i look at your last fixture, he'll have made a change at around 75 minutes. I bet he's done that in almost all your games. Over the course of time, it'll be one player more than any he brings on (for us it was Sidwell, another execrable waste of money). For you, no idea who it'l be, but it'll happen, believe me.

 

 

 

This is one of my favourite posts ever. Well done sir.

[mickthemagpie]

What was he really been muted for? The rules clearly state a 28 day ban for libel so its not that.

 

Best just to ignore these Mackems as soon as they make their first ludicrous post which doesn't usually take long.

 

Every Mackem joining the forum should be asked 2 questions-

 

1 What's our ground called?

2 Where is the airport located?

 

The answers will quickly identify their mindset and determine if they should be allowed in for a laugh or barred to avoid the usual, and predictable outcome we have with Paxton and before him Wireside.

[Sifu]

Thank you for that post brummie. Hope it puts Paxton in his place.