Klaus Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Has looked very average in his last couple of games for us, probably isn't helped by the incompetent midfielders around him like, players like jonas and tiote offer fuck all to us when we have possession... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Hope people didn't really expect him to keep up the form of his first couple of games, unrealistic to compare him to that form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Not a number 10. He's not a box to box midfielder either as you need to be able to tackle and he can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Affy Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I think every touch he did today was just too strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Looks very tired to be honest, he probably cover 1/4 less ground than he used to. He needs a break soon He had a winter break when he was in France. Th tiredness excuse is thrown about way too frequently on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Needs to work on his ball retention. This is what I said against Stoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He looked very tired today given he has been playing two games a week for a while now. The forced substitution didn't allow us to sub him with Anita in the 2nd half as Im sure he would have been if not for the Sunday league refereeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lets not go other the top now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He's had one bad game man, lay off him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Not a number 10. He's not a box to box midfielder either as you need to be able to tackle and he can't. Would want to see him in our team playing a box-to-box role before making that judgement, but I would imagine his physical presence and energy would be useful defensively in a deeper position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Awful in the air, btw. Challenges like a man of no height or physicality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He's looked worse but he's had his few games of total domination, now I think he's settled down he'll have to get used to the every day games and the general pace of the league. He's tiring and we're struggling without our main creative players. If many teams had their Ben Arfa and Cabaye equivalents out, their other players may look fairly average too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Not a number 10. He's not a box to box midfielder either as you need to be able to tackle and he can't. Would want to see him in our team playing a box-to-box role before making that judgement, but I would imagine his physical presence and energy would be useful defensively in a deeper position. B23 knows the score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Spend a few months with our coaches and this is what happens. Ben Arfa'll come back looking like Phil Neville. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Spend a few months with our coaches and this is what happens. Look at his form for Toulouse over the last 2 and a half seasons: 1 goal, 1 assist in 18. 2 goals, 3 assists in 33. 5 goals, 1 assist in 32. He is what he is. The first few appearances for us were above what he is normally capable of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He's had one bad game man, lay off him. He has been distinctly average for quite a few games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Not a number 10. He's not a box to box midfielder either as you need to be able to tackle and he can't. Would want to see him in our team playing a box-to-box role before making that judgement, but I would imagine his physical presence and energy would be useful defensively in a deeper position. Except there is a problem with that you need to be able to actually defend and pass better and for all the time i watched him play in France he was a defensive lliability as a B2B mid..... his best strengths have always been his dribbling ability and eye for a through ball. He's not an AM but he's not a B2B either he's best in a role similar to Fellaini where his lack of defensive ability and inconsistent passing can be disguised. Wait and see but i can guarantee he will struggle a lot more in the role you describe just like Fellaini did and be a detriment to the team. I don't mean to sound arrogant but i have seen it many many times, his role in general is fine he just needs better support with all the injuries we have at the moment he's surrounded by very average players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Doesn't look anything like the player that first arrived Amazing what a shite manager and average coaches can do in such a shot period of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Loads of shit Mole. Loads of shit. You really haven't seen much of him outside of Newcastle if that's your honest opinion. Liability? He's not a DM, but he can definitely play the box to box role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Needs to work on his ball retention. This is what I said against Stoke. Didn't disagree, tbf. I think the position he's playing in suits him fine, but he needs to learn some patience. With the physical strength he has, slowing down and holding on to the ball a little while longer shouldn't be any bother at all. Actually, I'd go so far as to say that he has a thing or two to learn from Jonas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Doesn't look anything like the player that first arrived Amazing what a s**** manager and average coaches can do in such a shot period of time. Aye it must be Pardews fault that he can no longer control the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Loads of s*** Mole. Loads of s***. You really haven't seen much of him outside of Newcastle if that's your honest opinion. Liability? He's not a DM, but he can definitely play the box to box role. Defensively he is which is why Toulouse had to play a DM and a defensive minded B2B alongside him in a midfield 3. He can't tackle, his skill sets are much better suited to playing further forward he will be fine when the better attacking players get fit. Being surrounded by Tiote,Jonas, Perch etc etc basically means he has do most things himself which you can't expect him to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I really rate Sissoko but he had a genuine shocker today - absolutely nothing he tried came off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I really rate Sissoko but he had a genuine shocker today - absolutely nothing he tried came off. Yep. He was obviously knackered, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 He could do with a rest...if he wasn't so important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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