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We should get Luis Enrique just to confuse the pundits who are wondering why we have employed our old left back as our manager.

 

 

 

 

Or Steve Kean.

 

God help us. :lol:

 

Tbf they have completely fallen apart without him, maybe he's not as bad as claimed  :undecided:

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I'd honestly think about giving an ex-player a chance. Someone like Ketsbaia with Solano as assistant or something like that.  We might need to get back to the roots of this club. We might need someone who knows what this club means like Keegan or SBR knew.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

 

Don't think it's anything to do with that, more an issue with not being willing to pay the same wages other clubs will offer.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

 

I think "nobody would take this job" is trotted out when people are struggling to stick up for Pardew so they pull that one out of the hat.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

 

Problem is I have trouble believing that we'd pay them the going rate. Moyes for example is on £3m per year. Also there's the fact that good managers tend to already be in a job; that's more money I don't think we'd pay. We'd need to find someone on a free that's willing to take on our setup and wage offer and basically arselick them constantly. Pardew has always fitted this mould.

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Look at the people Ashley has employed previously as manager, and coaching staff that have been hired over the years. His experience with paying off Allardyce and his staff has seriously influenced how he approaches recruiting non-playing staff.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

 

Don't think it's anything to do with that, more an issue with not being willing to pay the same wages other clubs will offer.

 

Really though? Most managers get paid the same as your average squad player don't they? Can't imagine Michael Laudrup's raking it in at Swansea.

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Exactly. Managers are aware of Newcastle's poisoned chalice, but their ego will drive them to the job because they want to be 'the one' that finally succeeds. Imagine how great that'd look.

 

Managers with their head screwed on know that it's not a poisoned chalice though. Look at the way the likes of Wenger, Ferguson and Mourinho have went on about us in the past. The potential here is massive and as we have shown with Keegan, SBR and even how much we took to Hughton. If managers are getting us going into the right direction then they will get our support.

 

Look at the support Pardew received last season and I find it incredulous that he doesn't seem to be under any pressure whatsoever from the media.

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Look at the people Ashley has employed previously as manager, and coaching staff that have been hired over the years. His experience with paying off Allardyce and his staff has seriously influenced how he approaches recruiting non-playing staff.

 

OCK for manager. :D

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Look at the people Ashley has employed previously as manager, and coaching staff that have been hired over the years. His experience with paying off Allardyce and his staff has seriously influenced how he approaches recruiting non-playing staff.

 

OCK for manager. :D

 

I'll hire Rich as Analysis Guy. We made a blood pact at Wrestlemania.  :lol:

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Exactly. Managers are aware of Newcastle's poisoned chalice, but their ego will drive them to the job because they want to be 'the one' that finally succeeds. Imagine how great that'd look.

 

True. Which is why the character of the person who will take us forward is extremely important. Benitez imo has a reasonable combination of character to go along with his vast footballing knowledge and experience. Not ideal, but certainly a step in the right direction.

 

Still, I'd much rather someone slightly younger, with a distinct philosophy on how the game is best played. I don't want a manager who is too rigid in his ideals though (a la Rodgers). Just someone passionate who is forever willing to learn and improve, and who transmits that to his players.

 

I don;t know why, but Poyet just might fit the above description?

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Benitez? Sure he's better than Pardew but he's not exactly known for playing entertaining football is he?

 

We will not get entertainment immediately. Our entertainment will be getting the results against teams we "should" be beating, and possibly a couple of surprise results here and there. We need to set a good foundation up and down the club.

 

When Hughton was in charge, I was under the impression that we'd taken care of our infrastructure/medical/youth tiers, and were well run again. This season and to an extent last season has made me doubt that. Benitez would sort it out.

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This "nobody would take this job" crack is entirely tedious. Look of many of the world's biggest name managers have been willing to drink from the poisoned chalice at Chelsea.

 

We're not Chelsea, but then we're not likely to be after the same managers as them. The idea that decent managers wouldn't want to work with our players is genuinely laughable.

 

Don't think it's anything to do with that, more an issue with not being willing to pay the same wages other clubs will offer.

 

Really though? Most managers get paid the same as your average squad player don't they? Can't imagine Michael Laudrup's raking it in at Swansea.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/dec/09/alan-pardew-newcastle-united-contract

Deeply disappointed with the returns he got from Allardyce's and Kevin Keegan's £3m-a-year contracts, Ashley has the new manager working under a highly incentivised agreement. While Pardew declined to talk about the terms and conditions of his employment when he met journalists today – reasonably, if tellingly, he said it was "private" and any clauses are "between me and the club" – it is understood his basic salary is £450,000, albeit with generous bonuses awarded for on-field success.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2256911/David-Moyes-highest-earner-Everton.html

Moyes’s reward for keeping Everton as a PL force for over a decade in charge on limited resources is a salary approaching £4million a year, which is more than Everton’s best paid player, Marouane Fellaini, earns.

 

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Benitez? Sure he's better than Pardew but he's not exactly known for playing entertaining football is he?

 

We will not get entertainment immediately. Our entertainment will be getting the results against teams we "should" be beating, and possibly a couple of surprise results here and there. We need to set a good foundation up and down the club.

 

When Hughton was in charge, I was under the impression that we'd taken care of our infrastructure/medical/youth tiers, and were well run again. This season and to an extent last season has made me doubt that. Benitez would sort it out.

 

That's a very good point actually. That's the type of manager I want us to go for. Then again would they be allowed that much control?  :dontknow:

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